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Another tough rebid


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  1. 1. Another tough rebid

    • 1N
      32
    • 2C
      2
    • 2D
      3
    • 2S
      5
    • Protest vote for weak NT
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Ax

5xxx

AJTx

Axx

 

Weak NTers can keep quiet on this one please.

 

1 - (1) - 1 - pass

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presumably your 1 bid shows 5. So 2 looks like the best lie available IMO. This is a really ugly hand for those who use 1 to show 4 or more and the -X to show 3 or less :lol:

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I wish to first officially state: "Yuck!"

 

Phil. Great problem. Where did you find this gem?

 

It seems that the issues here are at least two-fold (fwiw, I'm not very good at folding- ask my wife.) 1) What rebid is the least lie, the least of evils? & 2) what rebid will best allow for partner to re-evaluate his/her hand after my response to 1S.

 

I admit that, on a lot of occasions, depending on whom my partner is, i might rebid 1NT. Balanced 12-14, no 3 or 4-card spade support, etc., etc. Who knows, I might talk lho out of leading hearts against NT although my 5432 of hearts increases the chance that lho would still have a natural heart lead. How well can you bluff?

 

However, at this moment (always subject to change), I think that a 2-spade raise is the least lie and might be more helpful in a competitive auction for the following reasons:

 

I play that my partner's 1 spade bid (after the opps overcalled 1 heart) pretty-much promises 5+ spades. Ax doesn't seem to be such poor support considering the likelihood that one would raise on 3-card support. In addition, partner, in re-evaluating his/her hand, will be placing some potentially wasted heart values in my hand that I don't have when deciding on what, if any, action partner would take if I rebid 1NT. (I would not be thrilled to hear partner raise to 3NT on the assumption that I can stop hearts. Yes, partner could also have a heart stopper.) Granted, partner likely is relatively short in hearts, but so is rho. Partner could be vulnerable to being either tapped in hearts or over-ruffed by rho in a spade contract. But, hopefully, my aces would offer some protection from rho reaching his partner's hand quickly for another over-ruff or trump promotion. In addition to the above, the value of my hand would increase should partner be somewhat 2-suited.

I don't know if others would agree with my reasoning, but it is what it is.

 

When do I get to make my pitch for weak or 13-16 1NT openers? lol

 

Again, thanks for the post, Phil

 

DHL

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1NT shows 12-14 balanced.Even assuming the usual "standard" in America where 1 shows 5, I prefer 1NT to a raise on 2 cards and no ruffing value.

 

1NT is a value bid and if PD is concerned about a stopper for NT he can ask me later.

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Before I post the spoiler, I want Justin's and Han's answers.

I didn't reply to this because I went back and fourth. My only real comment is that xxxx is significantly worse for bidding 1N than xxx. With xxx I would routinely bid 1N.

 

Even with xxxx I lean towards 1N, but the aces and prime nature of the hand really seems to argue for a suit contract. So I lean towards 2S, but then I think about how bad this is if partner does have Hxx of hearts...

 

Overall I think it's 1N but I would not care which one my partner chose.

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Han's "smallest lie"

 

and this...

 

As I was looking at old threads, I can across this gem.

 

One of the areas where (at least BBF) has changed (evolved) is the willingness to bid 1N without a stopper in these cases without stopper.

 

Notwithstanding Justin's recent comment about xxx being better than xxxx (which I agree with), I thought it would be interesting to look at views four years ago versus now.

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Before I post the spoiler, I want Justin's and Han's answers.

I didn't reply to this because I went back and fourth. My only real comment is that xxxx is significantly worse for bidding 1N than xxx. With xxx I would routinely bid 1N.

 

Even with xxxx I lean towards 1N, but the aces and prime nature of the hand really seems to argue for a suit contract. So I lean towards 2S, but then I think about how bad this is if partner does have Hxx of hearts...

 

Overall I think it's 1N but I would not care which one my partner chose.

Are you frightened by how close our answers are??? LOL

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One of the areas where (at least BBF) has changed (evolved) is the willingness to bid 1N without a stopper in these cases without stopper.

If so, BBF has been rather slow to adopt the idea. I have a book from 1980 which recommends a 1NT rebid on such hands.

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One of the areas where (at least BBF) has changed (evolved) is the willingness to bid 1N without a stopper in these cases without stopper.

If so, BBF has been rather slow to adopt the idea. I have a book from 1980 which recommends a 1NT rebid on such hands.

You Brits are ahead of us anyway, you bid TWO notrump without a stopper!

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