Jlall Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 imps w/w Jx xx AJx AKJxxx Starting on left: P P 1S 2C2H X p ? First time partnership, partner is a very good expert, most doubles in competitive auctions are cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 3♣. I'm cornered into it. I would hope with stops in both majors, pard would help out with 2N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyams Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 3C. Partner is a passed hand; it seems unlikely that we make 9 tricks in NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 2♠, if I can get partner to bid 2NT then I'll bid 3, else I'll let it go in 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 2♠. Ostensibly, asking for a spade stop. More importantly, descriptive (great clubs, prime values). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 3♣, my hand isn't that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 3♣, my hand isn't that good. In the context of Justin's usual overcalls, this is a monster. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 2♠. Ostensibly, asking for a spade stop. More importantly, descriptive (great clubs, prime values). Doesn't this show a spade stop? They bid two suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Is partner's double snapdragon? In that case, I want to bid 3♦. Else, I will bid 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Is partner's double snapdragon? In that case, I want to bid 3♦. Else, I will bid 3♣. I think if we have an 8-card fit in both minors, clubs is very likely to be the better spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Is partner's double snapdragon? In that case, I want to bid 3♦. Else, I will bid 3♣. I think if we have an 8-card fit in both minors, clubs is very likely to be the better spot. Agree, except this helps partner evaluate better if we have more on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 2♠. Only cue beneath 3♣. Simply shows extras. Edit: Should partner bid 2NT, I'll go back to 3♣. I have already shown that game is possible facing a passed hand. If partner has a hand suited for it, he will bid game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 3♣, my partner passed first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 My partner would have AXXX KQTXX XX X. We only "SNAP" at the one level. Double to show cards doesn't seem necessary on this auction. No opponent fit is guaranteed and a hand with a support double would support wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Tempted to bid 2NT (assuming the agreement that 2N here is never natural). I don't think my hand is good enough for a cue-bid, and I'm a little worried about partner having long diamonds and short clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyC Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 3C. Partners x (rather than 2NT) must suggest diamond values so 3NT seems unlikely. And with 22 in the majors 5m is a long way away. With Jxx x AJx AKJxxx i'd bid 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Happy with just 3♣ but my 2♣overcalls are stronger than anyone else's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 3♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 2♠. Ostensibly, asking for a spade stop. More importantly, descriptive (great clubs, prime values). Doesn't this show a spade stop? They bid two suits. This may be backwards logic, but to my way of thinking I show stoppers when I can bid both stoppers at the same level but ask for my RHO's suit if I can only bid one below the next safe notrump level. In this sequence, then, 2♠ asks for Opener's suit to be stopped, because it is to my right and because I only have one call below 2NT (and more precisely below three of parter's suit). If I had been somehow able to bid 2♥ OR 2♠, then I would show. In another manner of speaking, I show not when they have bid two suits but when I can bid both of their suits economically. I ask when I can only bid one of their suits economically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I could make 3NT opposite as little as J9xx, Kxxx, Qxx, xx if everything sits well so I have to do more than just bid 3C right now. I think 2S is clear. I don't think 2S necessarily promises a spade stop since there is a lot of room between where we are now and 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 2♠. Ostensibly, asking for a spade stop. More importantly, descriptive (great clubs, prime values). Doesn't this show a spade stop? They bid two suits. Just making up some theory: We are over the spade bidder so we need a spade stopper to bid 2NT. Without a spade stopper but with a non-positional heart stopper, we can bid 2♠. Apparently Ken Rexford can bid 2♠ with this hand as well :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted August 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I bid 3C which I think is a pretty hopeless bid. 2S is much better. Partner had Qxx KQxx KTxx Tx and 3N makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 2♠. Ostensibly, asking for a spade stop. More importantly, descriptive (great clubs, prime values). Doesn't this show a spade stop? They bid two suits. Just making up some theory: We are over the spade bidder so we need a spade stopper to bid 2NT. Without a spade stopper but with a non-positional heart stopper, we can bid 2♠. Apparently Ken Rexford can bid 2♠ with this hand as well :) I have another theory. 2♠ is the only cuebid below 3♣, which could be our last making spot. So 2♠ shows nothing except extra strength. Partner can make a cuebid at the 3-level over that if he has one suit stopped and is worried about the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted August 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 2♠. Ostensibly, asking for a spade stop. More importantly, descriptive (great clubs, prime values). Doesn't this show a spade stop? They bid two suits. Just making up some theory: We are over the spade bidder so we need a spade stopper to bid 2NT. Without a spade stopper but with a non-positional heart stopper, we can bid 2♠. Apparently Ken Rexford can bid 2♠ with this hand as well :) I have another theory. 2♠ is the only cuebid below 3♣, which could be our last making spot. So 2♠ shows nothing except extra strength. Partner can make a cuebid at the 3-level over that if he has one suit stopped and is worried about the other. Right, meant to add this, obviously since 2S lets you stop in a safe partial and 3H drives you past 3C they cannot be thought of as equal cuebids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 2♠. Ostensibly, asking for a spade stop. More importantly, descriptive (great clubs, prime values). Doesn't this show a spade stop? They bid two suits. Just making up some theory: We are over the spade bidder so we need a spade stopper to bid 2NT. Without a spade stopper but with a non-positional heart stopper, we can bid 2♠. Apparently Ken Rexford can bid 2♠ with this hand as well :) I have another theory. 2♠ is the only cuebid below 3♣, which could be our last making spot. So 2♠ shows nothing except extra strength. Partner can make a cuebid at the 3-level over that if he has one suit stopped and is worried about the other. Right, meant to add this, obviously since 2S lets you stop in a safe partial and 3H drives you past 3C they cannot be thought of as equal cuebids. Wow. And I said "ostensibly asking for a spade stopper" and "showing great clubs and primes," which is sort of where we all end up on this one. Took a while. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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