Jlall Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 xx --- AQx AJT9xxxx w/w imps, starting with pard: P 1H 2C 2SP 3S 4C 4S P P ? Do you agree with your previous bidding? What now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Double. It's probably not lead directing though I'm happy if partner thinks it is. Pass would be ok but I think they will go down 2-3 tricks more often than they make. Partner would almost certainly have bid 5♣ when we belong there and sometimes when we don't. The previous bidding is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 I expect partner to get the lead right if we double, and that trick might be necessary to set. I'm doubling. If pard's got zilch with two clubs, maybe he'll run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Would have bid 5♣ over 1♥. Pass now, unclear that double would even ask for a heart lead, and it might not be necessary given how much length he's marked with. Moreover, that's still only three tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Pass. I don't think double is lead directing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Double. Should show something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Pass. I don't think double is lead directing. That was my first reaction too, but partner will look at many hearts, a few spades, and saw us making two non-forcing bids before we doubled 4S. I think he will work out why we think we can beat this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Well you may also have the agreement that double is "I want to sacrifice unless you don't think we should." But I didn't want to assume any such agreements. Note that I understand people are saying that double is just a strange enough bid that partner will work out what we think it means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Double. Partner should lead a heart, he's supposed to have MANY. We'll take it from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyams Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I suspect I am the minority here and I could be wrong; I choose pass. 1. There is no guarantee that a heart lead will be the setting trick. We could easily be ruffing declarer's natural losers in the suit.2. As far as I can see, a diamond lead could be equally effective. If partner is really weak, this could be the only time he gets to lead thru dummy's strength3. My biggest worry is that opponents can redouble. 4Sxx = is not a nice score compared to 4S +1 at the other table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Didn't we already anticipate this when our 4C pushed them? Do what you decided to do if they predictably went 4S. I planned double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyC Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I prefer an immediate 5C over 1H. Now I pass. Without agreements, It's not clear that double is lead directing. I'd double with 0247 to suggest further competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I would had bid 5♣ earlier, now I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I also would've bid 5♣ earlier. Now I'd Double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ochinko Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I agree with karlson and all the others who pass now but would have bid 5♣ instead of 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 Imo double is clearly lead directing. You dont double at imps hoping for -1. On this bidding its impossible that the X show a hand that is hoping for -2. I slightly prefer X to bidding 5C, but i would never just pass. If you dont plan to X then you should have bid 5C not 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 xx --- AQx AJT9xxxx w/w imps, starting with pard: P 1H 2C 2SP 3S 4C 4S P P ? Do you agree with your previous bidding? What now? With a passed partner our chances for game are relatively low so I might have started with 4♣ to maximize the opps guessing. I am passing and hope I figure out which ♣ is best to lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 xx --- AQx AJT9xxxx w/w imps, starting with pard: P 1H 2C 2SP 3S 4C 4S P P ? Do you agree with your previous bidding? What now? With a passed partner our chances for game are relatively low so I might have started with 4♣ to maximize the opps guessing. I am passing and hope I figure out which ♣ is best to lead LHO bid spades first, you're partner is on lead.I'm doubling now, my partners make good leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted August 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 I doubled. Most people I gave this hand to overcalled 5C, but if they didn't they bid 2C, 4C, X. I think you are a strong favorite to beat this on a heart lead, RHO made a NF 3S bid, and LHO didn't try for slam. You might well beat them 2 or something. On this day you get lucky and beat them 3, partner having a stiff club and clubs 2-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 xx --- AQx AJT9xxxxw/w imps, starting with pard:P 1H 2C 2SP 3S 4C 4S P P ?Do you agree with your previous bidding? What now?IMO JLall deserved his triumph :) Agree with previous bidding 2♣ = 10, _X = 9, 5♣ = 8 Now, _X =10, 5♣ = 4. Partner is likely to read your message even if you haven't agreed Lightner doubles of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 is X really 12.5% superior to 5♣? I think your points are unreliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted August 12, 2009 Report Share Posted August 12, 2009 is X really 12.5% superior to 5♣? I think your points are unreliable.When I pose a bidding problem, I like respondents to list some of the alternatives they consider and subjectively estimate their relative merits. I find this helpful because, usually, I'm aware that I made the wrong call, but wonder how egregious was my error. I realize that _X would not be most people's choice; but I play that 5♣ just shows long ♣. _X followed by a ♣ bid shows high cards as well as long ♣ :( Less pre-emptive. :) More constructive.[*] :) But I prefer 2♣ to _X because I don't fancy defending 1♥ X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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