Codo Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 You play mps with quite strong players, but in this tourney, regular partnerships are forbidden, so you have no big science avaiable. The bidding starts with: East You West Partner2♠ X 4 ♠ X 2 Spade was a weak two Partners double showed values and two placed to play. You should be confident to find him with 4 Hearts, as he had bid 4 NT with both minors. Unuckily, you are quite sure, that partner will not understand 4 Nt followed by 5 Heart as passable invitation for 6, so you need to decide now: 5 or 6? I made it wrong of course, else, there had been no question. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Trying to be serious. There is no deal here!. The 4NT thing doesn't work on every partner, when he bids 5 diamonds and you bid 5 hearts he suddenly beleives you wanted to play 5 clubs or 5 hearts. Back to the main point: I need a deal, but I would bid 4NT before comiting to my decision to get a bit of extra info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Partner might not understand your invitational sequence, but there is a chance he will understand and that seems better than taking unilateral action yourself if you don't think 6♥ is warranted by your hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 I'm going to bid 6. When I don't see my cards, how can it be wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 when in doubt, bid more :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 U R bean counters. Okay the deal was: ♠ Q5♥ KQJ95♦ AK♣ AJ83 Sorry for forgetting this small detail... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 spade ace/void, heart ace, and club king are my inmediate losers, partner having 2/3 is not too much to ask, I am closer to 6 than 5. Seeing the cards it is close between biding 4NT (raising when partner has clubs, but bidding only 5 hearts when he has diamonds) and just blasting 6. I Will go with 6 hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 6H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted August 11, 2009 Report Share Posted August 11, 2009 ♠ Q5♥ KQJ95♦ AK♣ AJ83 Seems like enough for 6♥ to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Well, "we all" reach 6 Heart with enough tricks. But unluckily, they had 9 HCPS between them, the jack of spade and two other honours. I leave it to you to find out about the score after a spade lead.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 did partner have the ♠K void? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMB1 Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 Unuckily, you are quite sure, that partner will not understand 4 Nt followed by 5 Heart as passable invitation for 6, ...Isn't it better to play an immediate 5H as a mild slam try, and 4N-5m-5H as to play? This similar to "scrambling" 2NT sequences, if ...-(2S)-...-2NT is (primarily) two places to play then...-(2S)-...-3H is a mild game try and...-(2S)-...-2NT-3m-3H is a sign off -2NT-3C-3H is a single-suited sign-off but-2NT-3D-3H is two places to play C+H OR single-suited I think this is covered in Robson and Segal's book Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 13, 2009 Report Share Posted August 13, 2009 I think you are right robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Unuckily, you are quite sure, that partner will not understand 4 Nt followed by 5 Heart as passable invitation for 6, ...Isn't it better to play an immediate 5H as a mild slam try, and 4N-5m-5H as to play? This similar to "scrambling" 2NT sequences, if ...-(2S)-...-2NT is (primarily) two places to play then...-(2S)-...-3H is a mild game try and...-(2S)-...-2NT-3m-3H is a sign off -2NT-3C-3H is a single-suited sign-off but-2NT-3D-3H is two places to play C+H OR single-suited I think this is covered in Robson and Segal's book Robin I think you're mixing Lebensohl and scrambling situations here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 The idea of 5H being a slam try is that using 4Nt for that purpose doesnt always work. 4Nt------5D5H 5H here show either H + C or H slammish. So its better to use 5H as a slam try and 4Nt to H soff or 2 suiter. These are not really standard and must be discussed first. Anyway i would just bid 6H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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