jillybean Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 [hv=d=n&s=skxxhaxxdxxcqjxxx]133|100|1♦ (1♥) ?[/hv] Playing negative free bids - what is your bid here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 1NT...wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 1NT seems clear unless in NFBland that is an overbid :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Does anyone bid 2♣? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Does anyone bid 2♣? 1NT describes the complete shape, and showes the stopper,2C would only tell about the club suit, so 1NT is the moredescriptive bid. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 [hv=d=n&n=sqxxhjdakqjxxcakx&s=skxxhaxxdxxcqjxxx]133|200|1♦ (1♥) 2♣ (P)2♥ (P) 2N (P)3♦ (p) 3N all pass[/hv] We missed 6N/6D, should it be obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bb79 Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 [hv=d=n&n=sqxxhjdakqjxxcakx&s=skxxhaxxdxxcqjxxx]133|200|1♦ (1♥) 2♣ (P)2♥ (P) 2N (P)3♦ (p) 3N all pass[/hv] We missed 6N/6D, should it be obvious? 2♣ shows at least game invitational hand, and with north's club support, I think it is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 2♣ shows at least game invitational hand, and with north's club support, I think it is obvious.How would you have bid it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_s Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 [hv=d=n&n=sqxxhjdakqjxxcakx&s=skxxhaxxdxxcqjxxx]133|200|1♦ (1♥) 2♣ (P)2♥ (P) 2N (P)3♦ (p) 3N all pass[/hv]How about: 1♦ (1♥) 1NT (P)3♣ (P) 4♣ (P)5♦ (P) 6♣/♦/NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 [hv=d=n&n=sqxxhjdakqjxxcakx&s=skxxhaxxdxxcqjxxx]133|200|1♦ (1♥) 2♣ (P)2♥ (P) 2N (P)3♦ (p) 3N all pass[/hv]How about: 1♦ (1♥) 1NT (P)3♣ (P) 4♣ (P)5♦ (P) 6♣/♦/NT 3♣ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick_s Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 How about: 1♦ (1♥) 1NT (P)3♣ (P) 4♣ (P)5♦ (P) 6♣/♦/NT 3♣ ? I think N is too strong for 3NT, and there isn't a convenient 4-card suit to jump shift or reverse into. Sometimes you just have to lie a little :( I suppose N could always cue-bid hearts in order to force. Maybe I'm resulting a little :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 North needs to stop being a wimp. Just about any series of reasonable actions by south should lead to some sort of slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 [hv=d=n&n=sqxxhjdakqjxxcakx&s=skxxhaxxdxxcqjxxx]133|200|1♦ (1♥) 2♣ (P)2♥ (P) 2N (P)3♦ (p) 3N all pass[/hv] We missed 6N/6D, should it be obvious? Hi, after a NFB 2C - your partner knowes about the club fit, usuallywe are talking about a 6-3 fit.His best bid would be 3H, a splinter, after which you should beable to reach 6C.But you may still end up in 5C. After 1NT it becomes harder, even nearly impossible to reach 6?,since your partner will need to take into account the fact that you willbe limited to 7-10 with wasted heart values, i.e. ending up in 3NT will be normal. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 I'd definitely bid 2♣. I used to play lots of nfb and I think on normal 5 card suits and a tenuous stop they're superior to 1NT freebids. I played them as (7)8-11 though, not 6-10 as some people seem to play them (cascade being one of them) - for me 2♣ quite descriptive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 [hv=d=n&n=sqxxhjdakqjxxcakx&s=skxxhaxxdxxcqjxxx]133|200|1♦ (1♥) 2♣ (P)2♥ (P) 2N (P)3♦ (p) 3N all pass[/hv]How about: 1♦ (1♥) 1NT (P)3♣ (P) 4♣ (P)5♦ (P) 6♣/♦/NT 3♣ ? I agree with Kathryn, in this auction you don't have to make up 3-card suits. North can bid 2♥ to force to game. With his actual hand, however, I think 3♥ is a much better bid - it shows game forcing values with heart shortness and 6+ diamonds (with a 4-card side suit he would bid that).Over 3♥, South almost has a slam force (the minimal possible wastage in hearts and 10 nice points) - if he didn't have weak trumps. I think I would bid1D (1H) 1N3H 4H 4N 5C6D I don't understand the 2♣ bidders with a balanced hand, a bad 5-card suit, and just the right values for 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 [hv=d=n&n=sqxxhjdakqjxxcakx&s=skxxhaxxdxxcqjxxx]133|200|1♦ (1♥) 2♣ (P)2♥ (P) 2N (P)3♦ (p) 3N all pass[/hv] Thats what I needed 3♥, thanks Arend B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I would bid 2C. I would bid 2N over 2H, but would expect a 3C bid from partner over 2N (game forcing 3C). Over 3C the south hand can cue 3H, showing the control rather than something like QJx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumcat Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 It could also go: 1♦ (1♥) 2♣ (P)4♣ (P) 4♥ (P)5♣ (P) 6♣ (P)(maybe)6NT PPP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 [hv=d=n&n=sqxxhjdakqjxxcakx&s=skxxhaxxdxxcqjxxx]133|200|1♦ (1♥) 2♣ (P)2♥ (P) 2N (P)3♦ (p) 3N all pass[/hv] We missed 6N/6D, should it be obvious? 1) I thought 1nt easy over 1h not 2c2) given the OP bidding over 2c I would rebid 3h...some huge hand.......3) in any case after 2c i must bid past 3nt...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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