Cascade Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sjhjt9764dk9863cq]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♣) 1♦ (PASS) ?[/hv] Do you bid your hearts or raise diamonds? If you raise diamonds - how high? If not what is your plan over various continuations - especially if the opponents start bidding spades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Whatever you do on this hand maybe it makes sense to agree to fit jumps after board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Whatever you do on this hand maybe it makes sense to agree to fit jumps after board. What does a fit jump show for you? Besides a fit and a second suit - range? distribution? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 a good 5 card major and 4 card support with most cards in the two suits and at least single raise values. Of course this is not the textbook hand for it but it definitely comes closest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 5♦. If they bid spades over that, I'll feel smug. A fit jump would show more defence, and especially more high cards in hearts. Something like xx AQJxx Kxxx xx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 6-5 is rare enough to be an exception for fit jump. The fear is partner doubles above 5D - not likely winning as he expects real defense tricks. And the short quacks fall for them. Don't miss H-KQx/Kxx/ fit is paramount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 I blast 5♦. The hearts aren't good enough for a fit-jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 I'm gonna try to put hearts into the picture. I might get lucky and hear LHO X instead of mentioning spades. I thought fit-jumps were meant to be used with good suits. I think I like 5♦ right away a bit more than showing a fit jump with these horrible hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 1H, no need to go crazy yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 If partner has heart fit, they have spades (or SO MANY clubs), we won't be allowed to play in hearts almost for sure. However any diamond raise is incredibly unilateral, I would just bid 1♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sjhjt9764dk9863cq]133|100|Scoring: MP(1♣) 1♦ (PASS) ?[/hv] Do you bid your hearts or raise diamonds? If you raise diamonds - how high? If not what is your plan over various continuations - especially if the opponents start bidding spades? Bid ♥ this will help partner down the road when you start supporting♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Seems like a good moment for 1♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Seems like a good moment for 1♠. sounds like the start of a wild auction :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevan Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 It may be a bit presumptous to think that opponents might compete in Spades at a high level; the responder did not make a negative double or bid spades. The opener could be sitting with 6/5 C/S hand (little will stop him/her). Who knows, partner might be sitting with some prime values in spades; all he/she did was bid 1D! To some extent, the strategy may depend upon our partnership bidding agreements when in competition. For example, what is 1C-1D-P-1H-2D(1S or X)-2H? For now, I bid 1H, and see how things develop. With FSJ, partner may place HCPs in Hs, and could it not create problems in later bidding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 4D / 3D second choice The spades are 4441 or opener is 56 in the black (IMO its quite likely here ). The chance of playing 4H making R vs W are close to 0% However 5D X might be too costly. So 4D seems like a nice preempt. Partner will only bid 5D with short H. Bidding 1H and raising D to a high level will force partner to double 4S especially if hes on lead with a stiff heart. I have no problems if he double 4S as long as he knows hes got 4 tricks on it own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wclass___ Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Seems like a good moment for 1♠. Not for me. What are you going to do after partner raises spades or cue-bids for slam purposes? Or you think that partner woun't be interested in ♠? I doun't think you will get to 5♦ unless you pass rkcb response of 5♦.You might pass 4♦ cue-bid, but then the psyche will be revealed, and opps can still get to their ♠. 5♦ is simple and effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilboyman Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Since your rho passed, either lho has a big hand or partner is sitting behind lho with a more than decent 1 level overcall. In either case, game for the either side doesn't look too likely and a plus or the smallest possible minus should give a decent score at matchpoints. I personally would try a weak jump shift to 2 Hearts. This should have a reasonable play if passed out since our side has a side fit in Diamonds. If doubled we can run out to 3 Diamonds and if partner has the big hand and raises Hearts absent more competition we may have a double fit game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 1h nonforcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 The spades are 4441 or opener is 56 in the black (IMO its quite likely here ). Isn't it possible and perhaps more likely that your RHO has 5+ spades and a weak hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesleyC Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Is anyone else as worried as me that partner might only have 4 diamonds? :D At the table I'd start slow with 1H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Actually I think best would be a 3♥ fit jump (I like the idea that splinters are only in their bid suit(s)). This will stop opener from bidding his 5-6 or 5-5 sometimes. If it's responder who has many spades, it will stop them entirely. I'll pass 4♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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