benlessard Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=skqjtxhqjxdaxcatx]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] 1S-----2H (not GF)3H-----4D (serious)???? partner denies the A of S and a club control but bid a good 4D instead of a non-serious 3Nt. Edit PS 3H is GF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Was my 3♥ forcing? If not, I'm kind of amazed by it. Wow; a serious cue missing all these controls. Pard needs ♥AKxxxx or 7th, ♦K for the bidding plus enough for a serious try. ♣Q gets us to 50-50; spade void and its at least 50-50. I'll bid 5♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 6NT. 6♥ might be better, e.g. x AKxxxx KQJx xx and 2-2 hearts. However 6NT will very often be as good or better than 6♥. If they have a choice between a club and a diamond lead, the diamond may seem more attractive if it's through partner's cue bid instead of around to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Not sure i understand the bidding either. However on the basis of the information given, I am bidding 5C. I agree with Phil's comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Was my 3♥ forcing? If not, I'm kind of amazed by it. Wow; a serious cue missing all these controls. Pard needs ♥AKxxxx or 7th, ♦K for the bidding plus enough for a serious try. ♣Q gets us to 50-50; spade void and its at least 50-50. I'll bid 5♣. Why not 4♠ iso 5♣? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 If I bid 4♠, won't partner be able to cue-bid ♣Q if he has it? That seems to allow us to reach 5♥ opposite x AKxxxx KQJx xx, 6NT opposite x AKxxxx KJxx Qx if RHO doesn't double 5♣, and 6♥ opposite x AKxxxx KJxx Qx if RHO does double 5♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Under the given conditions I think 4♠ would show spade ace and club control, 5♣ is showing club ace without spade ace. This is because partner could easilly be singleton in spades. On my partnership partner would not deny ♠A with this sequence and I'd bid 4♠ so he can ask for keycards and maybe find the easy grand. So I'd follow Phil's advice and try 5♣ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 I like 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 The play of the hand looks ugly for 6♥ as you have practically told the defense to lead ♣ and you need the spades for probable ♣discards consequently I only bid 4♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 The play of the hand looks ugly for 6♥ as you have practically told the defense to lead ♣ and you need the spades for probable ♣discards consequently I only bid 4♥ How can you sign-off with a nice 17-count, having a possible 11-count, when partner has shown serious interest? Isn't it equally likely partner has something like QJ in clubs? I mean, partner has little else over there to work with. Heck, I'd not be remotely surprised if the best contract is 6♠. In fact, I'm really leaning in that direction. Has the benefits of 6NT as far as possible club protection, with an added "last hope" of a quick ditch on a diamond run (third diamond with stiff trump Ace? Doubleton diamond with stiff spade?), plus ability to maybe establish hearts or diamonds by way of a ruff, if needed, with the cost maybe being the need for a 4-3 (or 4-4 LOL) spade split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 The biggest benefit of 6N is the extra 10 points at MP. 6S definitely doesn't offer that heh. 6S could also suffer from a heart ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 Oh yeah -- damned matchpoints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 When you said 4D " denied a Cl Ctrl", I assume you also meant NO "shortness" as well. Thus, no reason to go beyond 4H since you'll be out of tempo for Cl discards on Sp ( as already mentioned ). If there is a possibility for Cl shortness, I'd bid 5H = asking for said stiff or void for 6H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 5, 2009 Report Share Posted August 5, 2009 When you said 4D " denied a Cl Ctrl", I assume you also meant NO "shortness" as well. Thus, no reason to go beyond 4H since you'll be out of tempo for Cl discards on Sp ( as already mentioned ). If there is a possibility for Cl shortness, I'd bid 5H = asking for said stiff or void for 6H. I don't know, maybe... ♠x ♥AKJxx ♦KQxx ♣Qxx? If Declarer's RHO has the club King, 6♥ looks like a claimer. But, ♠10x ♥AKJxx ♦KQxx ♣QJ? or even ♠10xx ♥AKJxx ♦KQx ♣QJ? Now, 6♠ looks really good. I mean, what is making partner serious here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effervesce Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 4♠ - cue in own suit showing 2 of top 3 honors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I don't know, maybe... ♠x ♥AKJxx ♦KQxx ♣Qxx? If Declarer's RHO has the club King, 6♥ looks like a claimer. But, ♠10x ♥AKJxx ♦KQxx ♣QJ? or even ♠10xx ♥AKJxx ♦KQx ♣QJ? Now, 6♠ looks really good. Disregarding that we both have ♥J and ♠10, all of these hands will play at least as well in 6NT, won't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 Believing partner got the club queen I would have bid 5C hoping it enticed a X, with the double you bid 6Nt otherwise we will play 6H. Otherwise bidding 4S make sense, if partner is turn off you bid 6H (becasue hes probably void otherwise you bid 6Nt. PS if you dont play serious non-serious do you sign off or make a move ? the hand was ---AKxxxxKJxxQxx 6H is the best spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted August 6, 2009 Report Share Posted August 6, 2009 I don't know, maybe... ♠x ♥AKJxx ♦KQxx ♣Qxx? If Declarer's RHO has the club King, 6♥ looks like a claimer. But, ♠10x ♥AKJxx ♦KQxx ♣QJ? or even ♠10xx ♥AKJxx ♦KQx ♣QJ? Now, 6♠ looks really good. Disregarding that we both have ♥J and ♠10, all of these hands will play at least as well in 6NT, won't they? Perhaps, and much better in 6♠ than either on some of these. But, game only is not so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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