1S or DBL?

[kgr]

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(1D)-??

Do you start with 1♠ or DBL and what is your plan?

[Phil]

1♠

[jillybean]

1♠ , if partner passes and I get another bid 2♥.

[Hanoi5]

1♠. I have 'only' 17 but this sort of smells like mis-fit.

[pooltuna]

Double I have no problem bidding 2♠ over 2♣ and 3NT over 3♣ if partner starts with that

[Cascade]

1♠.

 

Swap the minors and I double.

 

Double and bid with this poor spade suit is not very attractive especially when partner might jump to 3♣ or worse compete to 3♣ over a 2♦ raise.

[inquiry]

1♠

[kgr]

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The bidding:

(1♦)-1♠-(2♣)-Pass

(Pass)-DBL-(Pass)-2♥

(3♦)-DBL-(Pass)-3♥

All Pass

 

I was sitting North and I'm not used to 'heavy' overcalls. With my previous partner the max he would have was like 16 pts. I should have bid 4 ♥ anyway (Partners 1st DBL is promising a 4 card ♥?).

 

Q: Is an advantage of starting with 1♠ not that it is easier to show 4 card ♥ if partner is weak (...1♠...DBL.. versus ...DBL...1♠....) or is that not important?

 

Edited: Added 3D bid

[Cascade]

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The bidding:

(1♦)-1♠-(2♣)-Pass

(Pass)-DBL-(Pass)-2♥

(Pass)-DBL-(Pass)-3♥

All Pass

 

I was sitting North and I'm not used to 'heavy' overcalls. With my previous partner the max he would have was like 16 pts. I should have bid 4 ♥ anyway (Partners 1st DBL is promising a 4 card ♥?).

 

Q: Is an advantage of starting with 1♠ not that it is easier to show 4 card ♥ if partner is weak (...1♠...DBL.. versus ...DBL...1♠....) or is that not important?

There is something wrong with you auction.

 

Partner doubled your 2♥ bid.

 

At any rate having bid hearts I don't see the point in your partner doubling again he can just make a quantitative raise.

[gwnn]

if partner doubles my 2♥ bid, I pass and hope for +470. If he invites me in any way, I definitely accept since I promised him 0 but in fact I have QJxxxx and 6-4.

[kgr]

...Corrected the bidding above by adding a (3D) bid

[Codo]

1 Spade for sure

 

Am I the only one, who would prefer a simple 2 Heart instead of a double of 2 ♣?

 

And what about 3 heart instead of the double of 3 diamond?

[NickRW]

Well, I double originally. For me, at MP, this is too strong, given that I play quite cheeky 1♠ overcalls at that form of scoring.

 

Nick

[skjaeran]

Well, I double originally. For me, at MP, this is too strong, given that I play quite cheeky 1♠ overcalls at that form of scoring.

 

Nick

I also overcall light, but this is still a clear 1♠ overcall for me.

[P_Marlowe]

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The bidding:

(1♦)-1♠-(2♣)-Pass

(Pass)-DBL-(Pass)-2♥

(3♦)-DBL-(Pass)-3♥

All Pass

 

I was sitting North and I'm not used to 'heavy' overcalls. With my previous partner the max he would have was like 16 pts. I should have bid 4 ♥ anyway (Partners 1st DBL is promising a 4 card ♥?).

 

Q: Is an advantage of starting with 1♠ not that it is easier to show 4 card ♥ if partner is weak (...1♠...DBL.. versus ...DBL...1♠....) or is that not important?

 

Edited: Added 3D bid

The 2nd double is problematic, do you really want to defend

3D with a known fit?

I prefer 3H to the double, I am not sure, I would raise 3H to

4H, but at least you have a chance.

 

In the current auction you only know, that partner is broke

and has 5 or 6 hearts, may be enough for 4H.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe