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Didn't you describe your hand already? I think you did. That means partner has made the decision to defend 3 undoubled, unless you have something new to add. You don't have abnything new to add, therefore you respect partner's decision and pass.

 

Rik

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I storngly disagree with the fact that you have shown your hand already. Wouldn't you dbl with a 2432 and 8HCP ? I would. This hand is golden, moreover your passed 1st so your partner exactly know what to expect.

 

Maybe -730 but .... Partner does not have to pass.

Well, it is matchpoint after all, ***** happens.

-140 wont be a good score with this hand, I can promise you.

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-140 is no good score, but + 50 is better then -100/-200.

 

We have around half of the deck, no established great fit.

 

I would like to show this hand by double, but I do not want him to sit and I do not want him to run. :)

 

So I pass too.

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I storngly disagree with the fact that you have shown your hand already. Wouldn't you dbl with a 2432 and 8HCP ? I would.

(I assume you meant 2434. :))

 

I wouldn't double with a 2434 8 count. That is why I think I have described my hand.

 

With a 2434 8 count, I would bid 3. With a 2425 8 count, I might double and I might pass. With a 2524 8 count, I would usually double, but not always. (Take the given hand and change the K into the J to get Jx J9xxx Qx ATxx and I would pass.)

 

Is the actual hand very different from a good 2425 8 count? I don't think so.

 

Rik

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Well, maybe I am wrong then. But I would dbl any 2434 8 count, And there in no way I let 3 being non vul with this hand. Too many ways to win imho.

 

The 3 situations I can see where bidding is wrong is :

A - partner passes and it makes

B - Partner bids, 3 was down and we go down at the 4 level

C - Partner bids, we go for 2 down AND we got dbled.

 

I trust partner judgment, and If A happens quite often, B should very rarely happen and vice versa. I dont mean I trust partner to bid perfectly not know everything, just that I think if he tends to pass often, he will not bid when pass is the right action.

 

Going down 2 with my hand and get doubled is, imo, unlikely.

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