awm Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 IMPs, all white. You hold in first seat: ♠AKx♥xx♦QJTx♣xxxx The auction: Pass - Pass - 1♥ - 1♠1NT - 2♠ - Pass - Pass What's your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Normal PASS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 oh, thought it was a lead problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 This sounds strange, but doubling with the trump AK is frequently wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Double would be optional / cooperative, and 2NT is for the minors. I think I would go with X, but my partners dont open verylight in 3rd seat, i.e. I am pretty sure we have at least halfof the pot, and that we hold the majority of points is fairlylikely. If you regular open light in 3rd seat, you should pass. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I'd pass, though it's close to a double (cooperative). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I'd pass, though it's close to a double (cooperative). agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 My choices in order of priority: PassDouble (cooperative), a close second2N (minors), a very distant third I would never consider any of the other choices as a valid option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I would (happily) double at MPS or BAM As is, the risk reward ratio is too out of whack to be willing to double at IMPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Somewhat depends on whether you open light in 1st seat or 3rd. If partner has a real opener then the X is DSIP but it is closer to pass as card placement rates to be bad for your side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 DSIP ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 What do you lead against 2♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 DSIP ? "Do Something Intelligent, Partner" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I'd make the cooperative double. A little bit surprised to find myself in the minority here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I would pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 If it is close to a double, then 3 rounds of spades seem right. but might change my mind when dummy appears after first trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 What do you lead against 2♠? I would probably lead ♦Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 I like using double as penalty here but I know that's not good at imp's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 What do you lead against 2♠? Heart I might get a ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I think 2NT should be natural in the same way as 1♥-1NT-2♥-pp-2NT and 3♥-3NT-4♥-pp-4NT are natural. You may argue that the above 2 examples are extremely different from this one but I think it's best to have the same agreement cause it would be difficult to draw the line somewhere. (i'd pass though.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Agree with fluffy. Q of Ds for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I have a reasonable hand which I have announced with 1NT. Partner has opened in 3rd but this does not mean an automatic pail. We had options when RHO bid 1S, dble or 1N. Lets assume for a moment we had elected to dble negative and it went 2S which rolled back to us, would we want to dble again is the question I ask myself, (I think I would). I like to compete for a partial, but at the same time I am not in favor of 3rd seat trash openings especially holding only 2S or less. When we chose to bid 1N there was no reason for partner to bid in front of us with a minimum hand should they hold 5-4-2-2 shape for example. If I were to dble here to insist it's penalty is not my cup of tea and I think this sort of hand is very reasonable. The problem is might I be stepping into the do do not something I want to risk frankly. 2NT to show minors now has absolutely zero appeal to me.P first choicedble second, what I term an action dble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I think 2NT should be natural in the same way as 1♥-1NT-2♥-pp-2NT and 3♥-3NT-4♥-pp-4NT are natural. You may argue that the above 2 examples are extremely different from this one but I think it's best to have the same agreement cause it would be difficult to draw the line somewhere. (i'd pass though.) We could agree on the 2nd auction, as the 3N bid is made under pressure and may have extra values (or tricks) in reserve that partner will be unaware of. It is also a game bid. To insist on using 2N as natural in the first auction is not optimal, imo. You already said you had 15-17 with a heart stop or two, why do you need to be able to say the same thing again and when you are only competing for a part score? Absolutely none. Better to use it to show a minor suit oriented hand such as xx AQx AKxx KJ10x where you cannot reopen with a double, takeout or otherwise. jmoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted July 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 The pass of 2♠ involved a significant break in tempo. Then the person holding the hand from the poll balanced with a double, allowing them to reach a making 3♣. The director was called and polled a number of flight A players. All of them bid over 2♠, with most doubling and one bidding 3♣! So the director ruled that passing was not a logical alternative and the table result stood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 So, 60% of us don't exist. I am still content to be in the insignificant majority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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