Ant590 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Sitting south White/Red you hold: [hv=d=e&v=e&s=saq5hak842daq94c5]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Dealer (east) passes: (Pass) - 1♥ - (1♠) - Pass(Pass) - ? Any action here?Any other choices close? And, much as it may look like it, this is not a preliminary question to a BIT ruling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zheddh Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 2D, wtp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 a happy 2♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 they are red v white.. 2♦ aims at what? +130? Anyone who thinks partner is raising or that we are getting to game after this call is smoking wacky tobaccy. If we are looking for game, we either double then bid, to show extras, or we reopen 1N to show 18-19 ostensibly balanced, but having shown our major. Alternatively we play for multiples of 100 by passing. Partner rates to have no more than 2 hearts... or a horrible hand... and on the obvious heart lead, we will be well positioned to know which is best...hearts showing a diamond entry or club switch, since we have trump control. On a good day we get +300..imagine the diamond K in dummy and partner with say 10xx in trump and the club A. Sometimes pass is the bravest call, since it seems to go against our instincts when we hold half the deck. Indeed, while I don't expect much support in this forum, pass is my call here, by a razor-thin margin over double. I'd rank the calls as pass=100, double 90, 1N 70 and 2♦ 40 I wouldn't pass at any other vulnerability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 Hi Mike Im not looking for game, my partner would have shown some sign of life with ♣A or anything more. I don’t expect the auction to end at 2♦.How potent is the wacky baccy on the island? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I don't think 1NT is totally awful, but 2♦ seems very normal and I can't see a reason not to. Mike, pass I at least understand, double I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se12sam Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 I agree with mikeh on this one. After the NV pass, if partner has some HCP, then: 1. Partner will have 0-2 ♥ cards2. Will not have 4-4 or 4-5 in minors (can dbl 1♠)Therefore, the most likely situation is a longish minor (♣?) We may have a cross-ruff. But doubling with my hand does not help, because partner will pull to 2♣ or 2♥. Passing and setting up a nice x-ruff seems inviting. We may score +300 or even +400 I choose pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 If it were MPs I would pass and expect to have a reasonable shot at +200 or hope that our +100 is beating +90's in 2♦. IMPs, I'm not concerned about trying for some magic number, but I am worried about missing a possible 3N or even 5♦ and chucking away 5-8 IMPs with a pass. So I'll bid 2♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 1N, I am aiming at GAME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 I much prefer 1NT to 2D, despite the stiff. 1NT at least shows my values, all 2D says is that I have d & H and am happy to compete. I may well have a chance to bid 2D later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Tough one.....good post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyams Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 1N, I am aiming at GAME. Me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 I don't think 1NT is totally awful, but 2♦ seems very normal and I can't see a reason not to. Mike, pass I at least understand, double I don't. So what do you do with 542AK842AQ945 sell out? If you bid 2♦ isn't that a big spread for such a call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 My first thought was 1NT wtp. But what if p bids 2♣? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 2, 2009 Report Share Posted August 2, 2009 My first thought was 1NT wtp. But what if p bids 2♣?Am I any worse off than if I had bid 2D rather than 1NT? I don't think so, and partner won't think I have 5 in the diamond suit if I remove 2C now. The Hog already implied this before your post, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 My first thought was 1NT wtp. But what if p bids 2♣? 1NT for me, and if PD bids 2♣ I then bid 2♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Sitting south White/Red you hold: [hv=d=e&v=e&s=saq5hak842daq94c5]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Dealer (east) passes: (Pass) - 1♥ - (1♠) - Pass(Pass) - ? Any action here?Any other choices close? And, much as it may look like it, this is not a preliminary question to a BIT ruling! close1nt or 2d....I can live with either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 I don't think 1NT is totally awful, but 2♦ seems very normal and I can't see a reason not to. Mike, pass I at least understand, double I don't. So what do you do with 542AK842AQ945 sell out? If you bid 2♦ isn't that a big spread for such a call?PASS.To reopen I need either shape (short ♠, 5-5, 6♥..) or extra values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 #1 2D#2 1NT looks reasonable, but I prefer to 2D 1NT showes the strength and the stopper, lies about the shape, 2D could be based on (substantial) weaker hand, but showes 5-4 With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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