Sadie3 Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=s4haqj10862dk9cq74&w=sa106hdj854caj10862&e=sq9532hk9dq763c93&s=skj87h7543da102ck5]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Bidding WE NO EA SO---- ---- ---- PAPA 1H PA 1S2C ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu1997 Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 2 hearts, to say he has rebiddable hearts and a minimum hand. what is wrong with the spade bid? the guyt has 2.5 quick tricks and a comfortable rebid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sadie3 Posted July 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 I think I figured it out.,... 2way drury for South and then there is no problem..... 2d.....4h....all done. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Yes, drury (or any other limit raise) would be fine. The non-forcing 1S bid is terrible - South really doesn't want to be passed out in 1S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 I don't like the 1♠ at all. We have found our fit. I would have bid 2♣ drury, given I am a passed hand. However, if I were an unpassed hand, then I would have made a limit raise. For what it's worth, I would have opened 1♣ with the west hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted July 22, 2009 Report Share Posted July 22, 2009 Making a non-forcing bid on a four card suit while concealing at least an eight card fit in partner's suit is folly. If you play Drury, that's the bid. If you don't play Drury, however you show a limit raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 Drury is clear. You aren't precluded from finding a 4-4 spade fit by the way. If South happened to bid 1♠, I would rebid 2♥, then raise to 3 and bid game as North. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 If you play as the majority, 1 Spade by a passed hand is non forcing, you better talk with your partner. Anyway, this is the wrong time to think about Drury. The question is: what to bid now. 3 Heart is an overbid 2 HEart not enough. I would choose the overbid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 2H. And 1S is ok, because in the end it is a systemic question / partnership agreement questio.If 3H can be based on 3 card support, than this is an alternative,but 1S is not bad, because you have will always be able to show your primary support. If you dont like 2H now, you could have opened 4H. With kind regardsMarlowe PS: I am coming from a school, which thinks 1S is forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 No I don't think it is needed. Support with support is my mantra so if this is an acceptable limit raise make the limit raise. If you are forcing to game then bid 2NT if that is your game forcing raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 2♥, shortness in partner's suit makes you downgrade not the contrary. Even if 1♠ is forcing I think it is a mistake, there is no way to shwo a 4 card fit invitational unless you do it right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=e&n=s4haqj10862dk9cq74&w=sa106hdj854caj10862&e=sq9532hk9dq763c93&s=skj87h7543da102ck5]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Bidding WE NO EA SO---- ---- ---- PAPA 1H PA 1S2C ? as others have said being a passed hand I ignore spades and make our system h raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 fwiw, I would not mention the spade suit even if I am an unpassed hand. I would decide whether I consider this to be a 4 card limit raise or a GF raise and make the appropriate bid immediately. There is little to be gained by bidding spades even if there is a 4-4 fit available, and it tends to make the later auction more difficult. (You are still defining trump suit and strength, when you could be bidding game or cuebidding already). I would mention the spade suit if my heart support was only three cards, because now playing in a 4-4 fit (in spades) may yield two extra tricks (by possibly having two pitches on the 5-3 hearts), AND I have invitational+ values. If I only had 6-9 hcp, I would again choose the simple raise to 2M, instead of bidding 1S. jmoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 2 hearts, to say he has rebiddable hearts and a minimum hand. what is wrong with the spade bid? the guyt has 2.5 quick tricks and a comfortable rebid. You are in an information war bidding ♠ when you have a clear cut, support showing, alternative is anti %age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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