Feegle Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sxhakqt8xdjtxxcaq]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] This hand certainly caused a 'difference of opinion' at the table. West opens 4S, passed around to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 5H. Double is a possibility, but you are probably going to end in H anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 I'd make a takeout double, which gives us the extra chance that partner will leave it in, and also gives us a chance to reach diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 I will give us our best chance to reach hearts. Im my preferred methods this would be by bidding 5 Heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 I'd double, to keep most possibilities open. If partner takes it out, we'll either play in 5♥ or some slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 DOUBLE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bid_em_up Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 double. (Not quite as emphatic as jdonn) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sxhakqt8xdjtxxcaq]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] This hand certainly caused a 'difference of opinion' at the table. West opens 4S, passed around to you. double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 5♥. Double will be the call of choice for BBF, but this hand is just too offensive for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 5♥. Double will be the call of choice for BBF, but this hand is just too offensive for me.offensive to me, also....the 5h call.....but i surely understand that would be some people's choice. double is also offensive, but perhaps less so, hence double and take that route to a minus, instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wclass___ Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 If you double then most likely this will end up in 4♠x= or 4♠x-1If it is down 2, i want to be in 5♥If pard bids 5♦ over X... oh well, you got a bit lucky, but i dount expect it to be such an improvement. 5♥ -- well i doun't expect to make it too often, but there are good chances that they woun't double.Strong feelings about this. Admittedly i do sometimes double with similar hands, but this is not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted July 23, 2009 Report Share Posted July 23, 2009 5♥ This hand may not be as valuable on defence as a double might suggest...partners tend to leave these doubles in with flat hands, not expecting 6=4 over here. If he has a yarb, then they may make an overtrick on a bad day. Of course, that -690 may be better than we do in 5♥. But he may leave it in with a smattering of high cards and nowhere to go: say a 3=3=4=3 hand... would you take it out with Jxx xxx KQxx xxx, as an example? As for finding diamonds... if your partners frequently bid 5♦ on these hands, may I suggest you buy lottery tickets? With that kind of luck, you'll be rich very soon. If he does take it out, he'll usually bid either 5♣ or 4N. Over 4N are we really going to bid diamonds? And if we were partner and heard us pull either 5♣ or 4N to 5♥, wouldn't (shouldn't?) we expect a better/different hand than this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted July 24, 2009 Report Share Posted July 24, 2009 5H. Fairly close to double though. Agree with MikeH about the offensive/defensive ratio - partner will leave the double in too often. Not so pessimistic about double finding a diamond fit - 5D by partner over double is a very real possibility. Also don't agree partner will expect something very different if I double and pull 5C to 5H. He'll just expect a bit more defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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