Windows Version vs Web Client

[allspice]

Thank you so much, Uday, for your answer, and Fred for your patience!

I've tried what you suggest already, before this update issue.

I'm so very used to the Windows version that the Web client results a little awkward, but I hope I'll get used to it, time given. It has many enhanced features, though I hope it will get better in the future.

 

What I find still better in the Win.V. vs Web.C. is:

1.

Win V: Whenever I replace a player, I see it immediately

WebC: I have to leave the table to see the changes. Sometimes another TD does the replacement and you don’t see it from “inside” the table.

 

2.

WinV: Player can replace his disconnected pd (choosing himself (saving TDs of a lot of complaints against the sub...)

WebC: Player can't replace his disconnected pd

 

3.

WinV: Its fast

WebC: things seem to happen in a slow motion

 

What I find better in the W.C. version is:

 

1.

WebC: I can see all the pending calls to all TDs

WinV: I only see my calls. I can't send a msg to caller that I'm on my way

 

2.

WebC: When I receive a call, it doesn't block what I am doing

WinV: When I receive a call, whatever I'm doing is interrupted (even macros)

 

3.

WebC: When I check a player’s hand history, I can see results for all hands played, and in a much better display

WinV: I only see the hands played, results, but not scores and not too clearly.

 

What I would like BBO to improve is:

 

In both versions:

1. Whenever a hand is being played, TD can't see the full hands. We must wait until the hand is finished to see the 4 full hands displayed

2. It would be very convenient to be able to se the traveller of a hand before the end of the tournament. Sometimes we must adjust a hand, where one partnership suffered damage and we don't know if we are really improving their score or the other way round... So we must wait until the end of the tournament to do so.

3. To eliminate a player from a sub-list (exclusive for the tournament we are TDing) we have some players that when replaced keep going into the sub list again, even if blacklisted.

 

WinV: Scores do not appear when we see the hand history of a player. Just the contract and the result... Yes, we should be able to know what the result is... but not the IMPs or the % obtained.

 

WebC: To share the list of subs is quite an inconvenience. Too many times we are rejected because players just wanted to sub, for instance, for goulash and not for a clocked tournament. A list just for the tournament works better, though a "general list" for those who ask "find me a place to play" is convenient when you run off subs or when “any” sub results convenient.

(From this "exclusive" list of subs, to be able to eliminate a chosen one, as said before)

 

And one more thing:

There is some cheating going on in some tournaments. It’s quite curious, if you just take a look at the results that whenever a tournament allows kibitzing, the matchpoints of the winner are way above 80%. If kibitzing is not allowed, a 10% less is generally obtained. I don’t think cheating will be completely avoided just by closing kibitzing. MSN, Skype and even the telephone company provide enough means for those who want to cheat. But, is there a way to know, for instance, if 2 players with the same location or IP are logged? Just, for example, a different colour (as hosts are yellow, and friends are violet, and disconn are red…) let’s say, if 2 players are on the same location or IP, they both appear in a different colour or with a sign (#1..2..3) beside their name? Many couples play from the same location and that is not indicative of cheating. But it would surely be a hint when we find those few players with a curious and miracolous insight on opps hands.

 

Thanks very much again!

I live in a farm and didn't play bridge for 25 years... until Internet and BBO arrived here!

Veronica - allspice

[mink]

But, is there a way to know, for instance, if 2 players with the same location or IP are logged?

Even if you think that partners at the same location cheat more than all others who can easily chat with skype, you cannot take the ip for identifying them, because some providers are short of ip addresses and therefore multiplex several customers on one ip address.

 

This type of checking should be done by the abuse team, and maybe they already do it. Maybe they also routinely check players with good results and a player with the same ip is kibbing in the same tourney.

 

Karl