Adjustment Question

[Gweny]

:unsure: Maybe it is nice idea to pose common problems and get input so our new TDs find additional adjustment opinions/suggestion in addition to what is on website on TDs Corner page. (scroll down little bit.)

 

So to get things going let us discuss common problems we see.

 

Please remember this is intend as resource for new tds to find common adjustment problems and SOLUTIONS.

 

1. 1 partner boots and remaining partner do not want sub. Time runs out and this table do not finish board. Do you need to adjust and if so what do you adjust (in proper format please) Assume it is North who lose connection.

 

2. North is critical of partners bad bidding and continues to rant at p, finally claiming he/she is stupid idiot. What action do you take if any?

 

3. Through no fault of EW, NS both leave tournament with 1 board to play. What do you do?

 

:-) Feel free to add other common adjustment problems you see...

 

Please give clear scenario and you solution to this..

:-)

[Gerardo]

1. Yes, to A-+
   
2. PP if available, need partner request to sub. Report North on behavioral issues during tourney.
   
3. Ask EW to wait and collect Ave+
   

[Cascade]

1. If a player does not want a sub and does not play then I do not think he deserves A-.

 

This is why we need more flexibility in adjusting scores.

 

2. Unfortunately a procedural penalty harms both members of the partnership.

 

If this is particularly bad or a repeat occurence then I think this player needs to be banned for a period.

 

The player could be subbed out.

 

3. Appoint substitutes if possible and reasonable.

 

It would not be reasonable to appoint world champion substitutes for common palooka's and vice-verce - especially in a Swiss format for pairs in contention.

[Gerardo]

Wayne, if the disconnection is not voluntary, a player has (should have) the right to wait for the connection to be OK again, no matter how long.

[Cascade]

I do not agree Gerardo when it is a clocked tourney and the original problem said that the time ran out so I assume we are discussing a clocked tourney.

[McBruce]

1. 1 partner boots and remaining partner do not want sub. Time runs out and this table do not finish board. Do you need to adjust and if so what do you adjust (in proper format please) Assume it is North who lose connection.

 

If a player does not want a sub he has chosen to take the risk involved in not playing a board. If the incomplete board is played far enough along that a result is fairly likely, I will assign that result or AVG+ to E-W, whichever is higher. N-S takes AVG - and the missing player has a minute maximum to return, then I sub someone in, whether the original player wants one or not.

 

2. North is critical of partners bad bidding and continues to rant at p, finally claiming he/she is stupid idiot. What action do you take if any?

 

I would warn North in private and deduct if possible 1/4 board from the pair's score. On BBO we need to be able to do this. It's unfortunate that South has to suffer again, but those are the rules in pair games. If I had previously warned the player and the ranting continued, he would find himself in the lobby without warning. This is Zero Tolerance 101. Ranting and name-calling is not welcome here and we should not take a laid back attitude toward it as many ACBL Directors do.

 

 

3. Through no fault of EW, NS both leave tournament with 1 board to play. What do you do?

 

EW get AVG +. NS get zero. If you give NS AVG - you are saying that it is OK for a pair with a huge score to leave early and assume that 40% on the final board (or boards) will be enough to hold their lead. You allow a pair that needs only 40% to assure a victory to get what they need without playing. It's grossly unfair to EW who may need a big result themselves to place.

[mikestar]

2. North is critical of partners bad bidding and continues to rant at p, finally claiming he/she is stupid idiot. What action do you take if any?

 

I would warn North in private and deduct if possible 1/4 board from the pair's score.  On BBO we need to be able to do this.  It's unfortunate that South has to suffer again, but those are the rules in pair games.  If I had previously warned the player and the ranting continued, he would find himself in the lobby without warning.  This is Zero Tolerance 101.  Ranting and name-calling is not welcome here and we should not take a laid back attitude toward it as many ACBL Directors do.

Not all of us are laid back.

 

1/4 board is sufficient for only very mitigative cases -- critsism goes on tool long but is mild in tone and sticks strickly to brigde.

 

1/2 board if tone is angry or gets personal.

 

1 board if name-calling or foul language

 

Ejection for repeated 1/2 board or 1 board violation in a session.

 

These penalties are 1 level higher for offenders with a history of violations.

 

Immediate ejection with minimum 1 month ban (usually longer) for

any form of threat or name-calling or other insult based on race, religion, gender, nationality, or sexual orientation (real or imagined).

 

Lifetime ban for any repeated offense of the last violation, no matter how much later in time. Yes, I believe that such people deserve the same penalty as the worst cheaters.

 

You need the support of management for the last two, but a director should be given such support.

[spwdo]

1. either a sub or A-+, let player chose, most take the sub if u say this :D

 

2.Sub to get him out, report to abuse, my idea is at least 1 week suspension, if happens after that , some stronger message may be in order.He/she wont play in my things till he apoligies.ZT towards players/when kibitzing/to tds.TOO many tds are soft on this causing attitude to get wurse.Dont let those ppl get away with stuff like that.

 

3.A-+ when no time to sub , if time left sub and let games be played, pair leaving togheter mostley means u know what, prefer one week vacation of playing tourneys when happens couple of times to either one of them, ppl need to laern to stay even when they scoring bad

 

 

P.S problem one, happens way to often that a player waits for too long so second baord is skipped, when i direct i adjust first baord when 9 minutes remain, never had a problem with it, one side causing first baord to take to long gets the Dreadfull-, other side + .Most tds let baord one be played and then adjust second at best, often to A++.

 

Incorrect, problem happens in first baord,adjust first baord and let second be played

[keylime]

1. Simple - either they accept a sub in a "reasonable timeframe (90 seconds)" or they automatically get a Law 12 ruling. This is not hard, it's called polite respect for the field.

 

2. Ditto before - instant removal with a stern warning that this conduct is not permitted.

 

3. This one is fun. Frankly I go adjust NS scores to the worse possible desired for failing to uphold their commitment. And I mean ALL of north-south's scores to prevent them from bailing. Make them earn it.

 

Another thing is fouling the boards by a player making charity comments about partner's hand via the proverbial ????????? or the why are you doing that? or via another mechanism. This practice needs to be hammered and done so hard that it leaves marks. What happens if a kib'er comes in knowing the situation now? To me, if they foul the board that way, they deserve automatic ejection without warning.