0 carbon Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 A. I play 1nt 10-12 1-3 position nv, otherwise 13-15. There is nowhere to indicate this on the card. There should be a text space following these entries. This is also true for other cases where there is space on the card, but no underline. It would be worthwhile to put a text area there for extra explanation everywhere there is space and it makes sense, eg, preempts may vary in strength vul/nv. B. Tabs go across. They should stay within groups, eg, replies to 1nt C. Will the alertable bids automatically be alerted/announced when CC is in use? D. Why not centre text entries for max legibility? E. Space inadequate for 2 bids & responses - please increase to max. Otherwise hard to describe flannery responses, etc. F. Why not resize all text to fit spaces? Up or down? Then allow 32+ characters in all fields G. How about colouring the types of convention cards (ACBL/FD/general/...) in the CC list. H. When you "Show" a convention card, how about generating a 4-bit GIF or PNG which HTML can resize 100% in vertical and horizontal dimensions so the whole card can be seen? eg, http://TomTrottier.com/Precision.html Looking good! tOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Thanks for your feedback, Tom. Comments/answers follow: A. I play 1nt 10-12 1-3 position nv, otherwise 13-15. There is nowhere to indicate this on the card. There should be a text space following these entries. This is also true for other cases where there is space on the card, but no underline. It would be worthwhile to put a text area there for extra explanation everywhere there is space and it makes sense, eg, preempts may vary in strength vul/nv. The basic goal was to make it look like a standard ACBL convention card. Adding new places to type text would detract from that goal. I do understand that adding more text fields would be useful for those who have trouble adequately expressing their system in the space that exists now. B. Tabs go across. They should stay within groups, eg, replies to 1nt Agree there is room for improvement here. Most likely I will do something about it in a not-too-distant release. C. Will the alertable bids automatically be alerted/announced when CC is in use? Not in the foreseeable future. D. Why not centre text entries for max legibility? Because it never occurred to me :) I just tried it, and I really didn't like the effect - sorry. To my eyes the impact on both legibility and aesthetics is clearly negative. E. Space inadequate for 2 bids & responses - please increase to max. Otherwise hard to describe flannery responses, etc. What constitutes "max" varies from browser to browser (and perhaps from operating system to operating system). Something like 80% of our members run Internet Explorer under Windows. Max for them is less than max for Firefox users like you (at least I think you are using Firefox based not only on your comments, but also on the picture you put up on your web site - nice dog by the way!). Anyways, it was necessary to be conservative in terms of defining these max values in order to ensure that people would not have to scroll the text fields in order to see all typed text. F. Why not resize all text to fit spaces? Up or down? Then allow 32+ characters in all fields Sorry but I don't understand this question. Perhaps I indirectly answered in in my respose to E, but if not please clarify what you mean in F. G. How about colouring the types of convention cards (ACBL/FD/general/...) in the CC list. We will almost certainly do something at some point to identify the types of the convention cards in the list, but not sure that coloring is the best answer. H. When you "Show" a convention card, how about generating a 4-bit GIF or PNG which HTML can resize 100% in vertical and horizontal dimensions so the whole card can be seen? eg, http://TomTrottier.com/Precision.html You can see the whole card in HTML as well by resizing the window in which it appears. You may need to reduce the font size as well (depending on your screen resolution and perhaps on your browser too). I agree that there are some advantages to using a GIF, but text in graphics files does not scale very well. The best solution might be a PDF. Using a PDF has the further advantage of making it easy to be able to print something that looks good. I am currently struggling with figuring out how to do that effectively using HTML, CSS, and Javascript (not fun!). I have zero experience using software to convert HTML to other formats, but I am guessing that any of these solutions would have to be server-based. If I am right that would complicate matters since one of our server programmers (ie not just me) would have to get involved. Of course that doesn't mean "it won't happen", but it does mean that it is less likely to happen quickly. Looking good! Thanks! Sorry you don't have space to include everything you would like to and that it is unlikely that I will be able to do anything about this soon. Fred GitelmanBrdige Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 carbon Posted July 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 E. Space inadequate for 2 bids & responses - please increase to max. Otherwise hard to describe flannery responses, etc. What constitutes "max" varies from browser to browser (and perhaps from operating system to operating system). Something like 80% of our members run Internet Explorer under Windows. Max for them is less than max for Firefox users like you (at least I think you are using Firefox based not only on your comments, but also on the picture you put up on your web site - nice dog by the way!). Anyways, it was necessary to be conservative in terms of defining these max values in order to ensure that people would not have to scroll the text fields in order to see all typed text. F. Why not resize all text to fit spaces? Up or down? Then allow 32+ characters in all fields Sorry but I don't understand this question. Perhaps I indirectly answered in in my respose to E, but if not please clarify what you mean in F. I mean, for text input spaces, resize the font (on "show") so that the text fills the space (horizontal and vertical) available. This avoids having to scroll and makes short entries more legible - like writing bigger or smaller. This would avoid any scrolling problems, tho long entries would show very small! An alternative to automatic resizing is to allow the user to specify the text size, eg, by "bigger" or "smaller" icons when editing. Then they could see what fitted and what didn't. Then they take responsibility if different browsers screw it up. If they get neg feedback, they can change. ----- using balloons -------Another alternative to scrolling long text entries on "show" is to show a balloon of the full text entry when you hover your cursor over it. You could show a graphic marker, e.g. a special arrow or button, to indicate there is unseen text that will be made available while hovering - or use colour hiliting. Similarly, on editing, you could open a box for entering text so the entire text can be seen. (btw, I like the new "show" function on all CC - more legible suits! :P ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 carbon Posted July 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 A. I play 1nt 10-12 1-3 position nv, otherwise 13-15. There is nowhere to indicate this on the card. There should be a text space following these entries. This is also true for other cases where there is space on the card, but no underline. It would be worthwhile to put a text area there for extra explanation everywhere there is space and it makes sense, eg, preempts may vary in strength vul/nv. The basic goal was to make it look like a standard ACBL convention card. Adding new places to type text would detract from that goal. I do understand that adding more text fields would be useful for those who have trouble adequately expressing their system in the space that exists now. In this particular case, you could just make the right hand text entry bigger, so it can read: 10 to 12 (nv 1-3)13 to 15 (otherwise) I think that is why the ACBL left space there. Same problem with Opening Preempts. On the paper card you can indicate vul/nv, but there is no text box for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 take a look at the available full disclosure feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 carbon Posted July 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 take a look at the available full disclosure feature. I have, and there is a new flash editor, too, tho it seems to not be working right now. The problem I have with it is that insufficient info is shown. It's like microsurgery to create and edit. I would like to see nearby situations, ie, in some kind of scrolling list or tree, so if I change something, I can easily see and make associated changes, and see all the situations I have covered. tOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I really think the solution to the convention card problem is another website, that allows for convention cards to be posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 take a look at the available full disclosure feature. I have, and there is a new flash editor, too, tho it seems to not be working right now. It is not an editor. It is a viewer that is meant only for allowing web-client users to view/use the FD convention cards created using the Windows client. It is possible (but not especially likely and certainly not high priority) that we will eventually create either a Flash or a Javascript FD editor for web-client users. Until that happens, if you want to create an FD-style convention card, your only option is to use the Windows client for that purpose. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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