Suggestion: Prevent dummy from speaking

[0 carbon]

Currently, many people get irritated when dummy speaks to the table and then complain to the TD.

 

Why not disallow posts to Table once declarer has played from dummy to the first trick, and renable it when the hand ends. This would allow the "GLP" politeness but ensure dummy doesn't interfere at all. After all, it's hard to revoke in BBO.

 

tOM

[mtvesuvius]

This would be horrible!

 

I know for me, when I play I want to be able to chat with friends, ask about team matches or ask about their latest idea whether I am dummy, declarer or defender. To ban this would be terrible and ridiculous.

[matmat]

I'm in favor of anything that shuts Adam up.

 

otoh, banning every dummy from speaking is, indeed ridiculous.

[0 carbon]

This would be horrible!

 

I know for me, when I play I want to be able to chat with friends, ask about team matches or ask about their latest idea whether I am dummy, declarer or defender. To ban this would be terrible and ridiculous.

Just to Table. You could still chat to friends or Tournament.

 

tOM

[jdonn]

I also think it's a very bad idea to prevent dummy from speaking. The problem may be with the irritated people, not with the speaking dummies.

[0 carbon]

This would be horrible!

 

I know for me, when I play I want to be able to chat with friends, ask about team matches or ask about their latest idea whether I am dummy, declarer or defender. To ban this would be terrible and ridiculous.

Just to Table. You could still chat to friends or Tournament.

 

tOM

I'm thinking mainly of tournaments. I wouldn't restrict it in other situations where it's more likely all are friends.

 

tOM

[matmat]

I also think it's a very bad idea to prevent dummy from speaking. The problem may be with the irritated people, not with the speaking dummies.

are you suggesting that people get irritated while playing bridge. nonsense!

[TimG]

Currently, many people get irritated when dummy speaks to the table and then complain to the TD.

I've never encountered this. Though I tend not to speak while I am dummy and I do not complain when my opponents do, so it's easy to see how I haven't encountered a problem.

 

Have you been the speaker or the complainer?

[mycroft]

"claim"

"vwpp" on trick 8

...

 

but in general, no I don't have a problem with anything that doesn't violate L42A1c.

[mtvesuvius]

I also believe in being able to inform partner what a moron he/she is before the hand is over.

[jdonn]

I also believe in being able to inform partner what a moron he/she is before the hand is over.

If it's your dad I don't think you would play unless you could start calling him names before the hand was over.

[mtvesuvius]

I also believe in being able to inform partner what a moron he/she is before the hand is over.

If it's your dad I don't think you would play unless you could start calling him names before the hand was over.

No, not my dad :rolleyes:

[dlbalt]

I also believe in being able to inform partner what a moron he/she is before the hand is over.

That's an ethical violation. A serious one, in fact.

 

When you tell your P 'what a moron he is', and do it during the play of the hand, you may as well just say 'The last card you played was a blunder, p!' You should at least have the patience to wait until the hand is over to insult your partner.

 

Dummy is not allowed to comment on the hand being played at the time, in any manner. That's not a custom, it's rules of the game.

 

I'm all for allowing the table host to restrict dummy from speaking during the play of the hand. It may be a way to keep the dummy-claimers and hideous-hog-wannabes from ruining a lot of good tables.

[kenrexford]

I think proper etiquette should be to note how moronic partner is at the first opportunity. In fact, I think there should be a button to click, sort of like people can click the "claim" button. Instead, Dummy could click the "moron" button. When this is clicked, a mini-screen pops up for an explanation, at which point you could type in any clarifications. Not why, as the opponents probably already know. More like, "a huge one at that" or "f-ing idiot" or "do you even have a brain?" Things like that.

 

Now, in all fairness, like a claim, I do think partner should have the option of either accepting or rejecting.

[zheddh]

I think proper etiquette should be to note how moronic partner is at the first opportunity. In fact, I think there should be a button to click, sort of like people can click the "claim" button. Instead, Dummy could click the "moron" button. When this is clicked, a mini-screen pops up for an explanation, at which point you could type in any clarifications. Not why, as the opponents probably already know. More like, "a huge one at that" or "f-ing idiot" or "do you even have a brain?" Things like that.

 

Now, in all fairness, like a claim, I do think partner should have the option of either accepting or rejecting.

rawfl :rolleyes:

[Mbodell]

I wish I could tell my partner to claim during the play. I have one partner (my dad) who plays slowly and doesn't notice the timer in ACBL tournaments. He's not great with computers, so I think it would be a service to all if I could say "claim" or even "1 minute remaining". I don't do this.

 

However I do talk as dummy to say "brb".

[jillybean]

How would you vote if dummy was chatting in a foreign language during the hand?

[dlbalt]

I wish I could tell my partner to claim during the play. 

I wish I could tell my partner which card to play, but the rules have this silly prejudice about dummy not playing the hand.

 

One factor that gets lost when discussing claims by dummy is the negative inference when dummy doesn't tell partner to claim.

 

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You get to 6♠ after LHO overcalls in ♥. You ruff the A♥ lead, take 2 trumps with both sides following and run ♥ winners while RHO sluffs minors.

 

Eventually you ask yourself, why hasn't partner told me to claim yet? There's a trump lurker, and LHO is going to take his ♥K and give his P a ruff in a minor suit. So you wake up (finally) and draw the last trump.

 

Since partner is in the habit of telling you to claim, he didn't have to say a word to alert you about it. In fact, on this hand, he hasn't done anything the opponents (or the rules) could object to. In effect, he committed that infraction on previous hands, when he told you to claim.