ONEferBRID Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 IMPsBoth Vulopps silentPartner opens 1NT - 2D! 3H - ?? Do you pass or bid game after the Super Accept ? T x J T x x x K x J T x x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I'm not sure if it will affect my decision, but what other choices did your partner have to super accept? What would 2♠, 2NT, 3♣, or 3♦ mean? Does 3♥ show anything in particular? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 We get an extra 450 points for game here, right? Just checking. Yeah, I'll bid 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I'd bid game because I have both tens, and it's red imps. BTW it's nice to play a form of superaccepts where there is a "nonserious" option for opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I'd bid game because I have both tens, and it's red imps. BTW it's nice to play a form of superaccepts where there is a "nonserious" option for opener. How about 2H non serious :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Definitely game the way I play super accepts. When I do it, I mean it. The way I see lots of people playing them, I don't want to bid game with this opposite a random 16 with four hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 This looks suspiciously like the responding hand in this thread:http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=32885 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 IMPsBoth Vulopps silentPartner opens 1NT - 2D! 3H - ?? Do you pass or bid game after the Super Accept ? T x J T x x x K x J T x x LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I'd bid game because I have both tens, and it's red imps. BTW it's nice to play a form of superaccepts where there is a "nonserious" option for opener. How about 2H non serious :Pgood answer :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Definitely game the way I play super accepts. When I do it, I mean it. The way I see lots of people playing them, I don't want to bid game with this opposite a random 16 with four hearts. If you restrict super-accepts to hands which make game opposite a crappy 5-count, don't you have problems when responder has the borderline 7-count with a singleton? (Or if that's always an invite, make it a 6-count - hands which are worth game opposite a fit, but aren't really even invitational without one) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 Definitely game the way I play super accepts. When I do it, I mean it. The way I see lots of people playing them, I don't want to bid game with this opposite a random 16 with four hearts. If you restrict super-accepts to hands which make game opposite a crappy 5-count, don't you have problems when responder has the borderline 7-count with a singleton? (Or if that's always an invite, make it a 6-count - hands which are worth game opposite a fit, but aren't really even invitational without one) I can show those as responder in my prefered system (light invitational responding hands with two suits). Anyway I don't think this 5 count is so crappy, so if you have the system to distinguish when opener needs responder to have a 5 count to make game and when he needs him to have a 6 count, please inform us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I can show those as responder in my prefered system (light invitational responding hands with two suits). How does it work? I have had problems dealing with such hands. Agree it's a bit much to distinguish between 5 points and 6, but there must be a wide gap in playing strength between a 7-count with a singleton and a 5-count with no singleton. How do you get to game with the former hand when you have a fit without getting to too many hopeless 3nt contracts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I'd bid game because I have both tens, and it's red imps. BTW it's nice to play a form of superaccepts where there is a "nonserious" option for opener. How about 2H non serious :P come on, if you're e.g. 2533 you're seriously happy bidding 2♥? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I'd bid game because I have both tens, and it's red imps. BTW it's nice to play a form of superaccepts where there is a "nonserious" option for opener. How about 2H non serious :P come on, if you're e.g. 2533 you're seriously happy bidding 2♥? Yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 How does it work?For all these you can require 5-5 (my preference) or allow it on 5-4, in the first case you are less likely to end up too high with no fit, but in the second case you can use it more often. 1NT 2♣2♦/♥ 2♠light unbalanced invite with 5 spades and a minor. Opener can pass, or bid 2NT to ask for the minor. 1NT 2♦2♥ 2♠artificial showing light unbalanced invite with 5 hearts and another suit.Opener must bid 2NT, then you bid 3♣/♦/♥ with clubs/diamonds/spades. You can also include other hands, such as 3♠ over the relay showing a game force with 5-5 in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 There are five bids available that are higher than 2♥ and not higher than 3♥. Maybe that gives us enough space to be able to show both a maximum with four-card support and a minimum with five-card support? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 I'd bid game because I have both tens, and it's red imps. BTW it's nice to play a form of superaccepts where there is a "nonserious" option for opener. How about 2H non serious ;) come on, if you're e.g. 2533 you're seriously happy bidding 2♥? Yes?non serious 4H. LAW gone mad? Haven't had a disaster yet, doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Do people around the world show super max with 2NT when you hold ♥KQx/♥AQx/♥AKx? for the vacant super acceptances, you could play that 3♣ shows something easy to remember like Ax AKQx Kxxx xxx, if it ever happens you will have a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 There are five bids available that are higher than 2♥ and not higher than 3♥. Maybe that gives us enough space to be able to show both a maximum with four-card support and a minimum with five-card support? You can also use 6N to show a minimum with four hearts. You wouldn't want to even though you could. I disagree strongly with forcing to the 3 level with a minimum on an auction where it is very hard for the opponents to come into the auction safely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 I disagree strongly with forcing to the 3 level with a minimum on an auction where it is very hard for the opponents to come into the auction safely. We have a ten-card fit, 15 opposite 0-7, and you expect to be able to play in 2♥? Do you play your bridge mainly at golf clubs now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted July 10, 2009 Report Share Posted July 10, 2009 Bid 4, why else do they award a game bonus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Do people around the world show super max with 2NT when you hold ♥KQx/♥AQx/♥AKx? I heard of that treatment and think it's terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Do people around the world show super max with 2NT when you hold ♥KQx/♥AQx/♥AKx? In England most people superaccept on almost any hand with four-card support, but never with three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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