Judgement

[the hog]

I meant to say "judgment" does not have an "e" directly after the "g."

Correct but "judgement" does and it is a valid word.

As Wayne correctly points out, the correct spelling is "judgement". Unfortunately, the Americans bastardised, (notice no "z"), the spelling of this word like so many others.

By the way, Wayne and I are certainly not British and would regard it as insulting to be thought so.

[the hog]

Couldn't double be 19 Balanced?

You mean 19 balanced with a spade stopper? I suppose it is less frequent on this auction.

 

But even so, here we have a balanced hand with a spade stopper, and dbl is fine with me.

You stated before that partner will pull the double if it is not correct, and I am afraid I was a bit rude about that answer, Helene.

As Justin quite correctly points out, partner will NEVER pull this double, right or wrong, that is if partner trusts with whom he is playing. If he doesn't, they should not be playing together. By the way, I think 4S has good chances of making if bid by sound opponents.

[gnasher]

As Wayne correctly points out, the correct spelling is "judgement". Unfortunately, the Americans bastardised, (notice no "z"), the spelling of this word like so many others.

That sort of statement rarely turns out to be correct, because both written English and English-speaking settlements in North America existed long before anyone thought of trying to standardise English spelling. Usually one finds that both spellings have a good pedigree.

 

That's true in this case. The NSOED also quotes Coverdale's 16th Century translation of the 119th Psalm, which formed part of the Book of Common Prayer. He used the word "iudgmentes".

[Fluffy]

Couldn't double be 19 Balanced?

that's not a double, that's a DOUBLE!!!! :P

 

I think Ron is very right, we forgot to bid 1NT previous round for an unknown reason.

 

 

North bid 4♠ to make, somebody asked whee the hearts were, the real question is where the diamonds are, and I suspect it, North has a lot of them with his 2 suiter.

 

 

I disagree with mike that partner will never pull this double, when we doubled initially we were able to handle a 5 club jump from partner, we still are.

 

But double is a non fitting hand with extras (and defensive tricks). Doubling ith 4 card fit is terrible, so 5 clubs anyway, reverse the minors and we have a close decision between pass and double.

 

 

so who is to be the judge?

[the hog]

As Wayne correctly points out, the correct spelling is "judgement". Unfortunately, the Americans bastardised, (notice no "z"),  the spelling of this word like so many others.

That sort of statement rarely turns out to be correct, because both written English and English-speaking settlements in North America existed long before anyone thought of trying to standardise English spelling. Usually one finds that both spellings have a good pedigree.

 

That's true in this case. The NSOED also quotes Coverdale's 16th Century translation of the 119th Psalm, which formed part of the Book of Common Prayer. He used the word "iudgmentes".

Wasn't it Webster who attempted to standardise US spelling? ie changing "s" to "z" and removing what he thought were extraneous "e"s? I suspect that the English speaking settlements used British English and this continued until Webster came onto the scene.

[gnasher]

Wasn't it Webster who attempted to standardise US spelling? ie changing "s" to "z" and removing what he thought were extraneous "e"s? I suspect that the English speaking settlements used British English and this continued until Webster came onto the scene.

Possibly, but if so all he was doing was substituting his own arbitrary rules for somebody else's arbitrary rules. If a spelling was acceptable in the 16th century, disallowed by an 18th Century English prescriptivist, and then permitted again by a 19th Century American, does that make the spelling wrong?

[Wackojack]

Agree with those that say that west must NEVER pull a double of 4S. 3C is a well defined bid compared with the initial double, so the final decision should be east's. Having said that, east's decision looks close to me. Unless north is known to be a crackpot, he is bidding to make 4S so has to have extreme distribution. Are there any nasty surprises for north in 4S? Yes the K♠ offside. Will this surprise be fatal to declarer? Possibly. Nevertheless, on balance I vote for 5C since this gives you 2 chances of being right againt one chance of being wrong.

[the hog]

Wasn't it Webster who attempted to standardise US spelling? ie changing "s" to "z" and removing what he thought were extraneous "e"s? I suspect that the English speaking settlements used British English and this continued until Webster came onto the scene.

Possibly, but if so all he was doing was substituting his own arbitrary rules for somebody else's arbitrary rules. If a spelling was acceptable in the 16th century, disallowed by an 18th Century English prescriptivist, and then permitted again by a 19th Century American, does that make the spelling wrong?

Fair comment. I must admit, as an Antipodean, however, i detest the vulgar Americanisms that are creeping into the English language. Most of these are garnered by our young from watching US TV shows.