Cascade Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=s82h953dq10975432c]133|100|Scoring: IMP(2♠*) Dbl (PASS) ? *Spades and a minor weak[/hv] You assume you have a route to show a bad hand and a moderate hand - Lebensohl or otherwise. 1. Do you make the weak bid or the stronger bid? 1a. Or do you take some other action? 2. Say you take one of the two actions in 1. (not 1a.) and partner rebids 3NT. What now? 3. If partner opens 2NT (21-22) what action do you take? If necessary assume there are two ways to get to 5♦ one showing no slam interest and one showing some slam interest. 4. What if the 2NT opening range was slightly different does it affect your decision - 20-21? 22-23? Where is your boundary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flameous Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 This is a bad hand for anything but diamonds, and even then not so great one. So I'm showing a weak hand. I just wonder what would ... 2NT - (p) - 3C - (p) - 4D show. Cause it could well be something like this. Over 3NT I bid 5D, if pard has AKx in D, bad luck. Atleast we have better chances of making 5D... Over 2NT I just bid 5D and hope for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 1.Partner has a real strong hand or a fit. As opener rates to have the spades and clubs, we should have a fit in a red suit, so this is surely a strong hand. 1 a. No I won't jump to 4 Diamond. Oppsite a normal take out double, 3 D is enough and when partner has a good hand with hearts, I want him to bid them at the 3. level. 2. Depending on the system. I would bid 4 diamond, looking for a slam if this approach shows extra sttrength. If X 3 NT just shows 19-20 HCPS with 4 hearts, I try 5 Diamond. 3. Last time I tried 5 Diamond on a similar hand and was rewared, when partner had AK tight in that suit. Opposite a slightly stronger hand, (around 22/23 HCPS) I make a slam try, with fewer then 18 I may rest in a partial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 #1 the weak bid, one reason: It is highly likely that partner is really strong, if I overstate my power I wont be able to stop him below the 6 level#2 5D, should be too play#3 no slam interest, if partner has 7 of the 8 relevant cards to make slam sensible, I wont be able to stop him#4 I doubt it is that close, the hand is nice, but ... With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I'd bid 5♦ over the double. There's no sensible way to investigate, and I don't want to do anything to encourage him to consider other strains. I usually play a direct 4♦ as forcing, and 2NT followed by 4♦ as 5+ diamonds and four hearts. A good hand would take the forcing route, so 5♦ shows a weaker hand with shape, though this would be at the extreme end of that. Maybe 2NT followed by 5♦ should mean something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 5D. Hell, I have 8 of them and i am not pussy footing to try and find a heart fit. even with a H fit, I am not putting an 8 card suit down as dummy.No way in the world am I only bidding 3D with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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