inquiry Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 We have all seen and kibitzed Jimmy Cayne matches, some of us have played in them (in my case with not a good result for me). All these hands will be from Feb 2, 2009 match. Here is the fifth hand from that match on the BBO, see how you would do. Note: these actual hands and not problem hands, per se. Most will not be a major challenge BBO forum regulars. Eventually we will assign imps for different actions. [hv=d=e&v=b&s=s8632ht5dqcakq953]133|100|Scoring: IMPThis one may have a more questions, depending on what "we" decide to do. You hear your RHO open 1♦, now it is your call. You bid?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I can't even fathom a good reason to convince yourself to do anything abnormal rather than 2♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I can't even fathom a good reason to convince yourself to do anything abnormal rather than 2♣. There were two different actions with this hand.... at the two different tables. So if we have two (or more) different actions here, we will have to have different potential follow ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I wouldn't bid 3♣. agree with jdonn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 And 2♣ for me also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 1♠, I can't stomach missing spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobowolf Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 2♣. I can't stomach finding spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 2♣ seems obvious to me. I'm not even sure Marshall Miles would bid 1♠ here with such a disparity in the black suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se12sam Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I might risk 3♣. The hand has a very high offensive value and (if partner has some club length) a low defensive value. I wish to dissuade partner from raising me easily OR from doubling them later with some scattered defensive values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I think I'd 2♣ even if playing raptor nt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 The hand has a very high offensive value and (if partner has some club length) a low defensive value. I think completely the opposite. KQJTxxx is high offense, low defense. AKQxxx is high defense. It becomes high offense if partner has support, but of course after 2♣ you should find that out by getting raised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 2♣ seems obvious, but I can see someone passing with this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Ok, we shall continue the auction for those of you who choose to bid 2♣. If anyone ever overcalls 3♣ with this hand, I will give the follow up auction as well. Over 2♣, LHO passes and partner bids 2♥ and RHO passes. Bidding to date: (1D)-2C-(P )-2H(P )- ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 Now I bid 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 2♣...2♠ About obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 bid my 4 card suit at as low a level as i can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se12sam Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I pass. If I have to bid, then I bid 3♣. I'm sorry I don't get the 2♠ bid. Do we expect partner to have 5-4 in majors? If so, isn't the opponents' silence deafening? They have ~9 card fit in diamonds and have passed. Possibly partner has bid 2♥ to improve on the 2♣ contract. I have a singleton diamond and a 2-card support. That's enough for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Agree with pass here if 2H is constructive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Ok, let's score this one up. Board 10 Feb 2 2009 Here Jimmy Cayne bid 3♣ keeping his partner out of the auction (I guess this answers the question of who bids 3♣ with this hand). At the other table, the bidding went 2♣-p-2♥-p-2♠-p-4♠, down two. Those that pass 2♥ win 8 imps, +140 versus -200, (or maybe 7)Those that rebid 2[sp[, lose 2 imps at the table (and 8 against those passing). Well done se12sam and maybe xcurt. Se12Sam also might have broken even with 3♣ as it looks like he might have bid that initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 But I want to be in 4♠ on these two hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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