karlis_ooo Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I highly recommend playing transfer type 2♦ 2♥Maybe it was also applied by given partnership 2♥ being some sort of stronger bid(shapish inv?), and 2♠ most probably intended as weak competive bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I still think the "error" might be assessed wrong. It could be a lack of partnership definitions. However, I cannot imagine that 2♠ should show this strong of a hand. With this hand, double and resurface later if needed. IMO, 2♠ as described makes more sense as a weaker bid, with Opener not raising because of the weakness implied. If the problem really is that ths hand is just right but Opener cannot evaluate hands, that's terrible. But, I think the more likely and plausible problem was that 2♠ was deemed a practical underbid and was punished accordingly as a poor judgment call.While the actual hand was a maximum for the call, I assume, clearly game was going to have good chances opposite a lesser hand... I'm not sure how josh thinks it made slam...it seems to have 2 red losers... but as josh observed, change the spades to KQ10xx, and game is excellent. So while I would have bid 4♠, surely even more conservative bidders should see that if partner was prepared to risk 2♠, our hand, with extra trump, 2 fillers for the second suit (I would give 10-1 odds he has diamonds but if he has clubs, we don't mind either) and 2, count them, 2 side Aces... the 3-level must be safe... and if he has top of range, he can move to game over a simple raise. As for doubling... that is too eggs-in-one-basket for my comfort at imps. Even if we run the spade suit, we haven't beaten them yet, and most partners don't oblige with 2 side Aces! If we can beat them 1, we rate to go plus on offence, so the gain isn't much, and if we go +500-800, we rate to go 620 or 600 on offence... while there is a real risk of a double swing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted July 4, 2009 Report Share Posted July 4, 2009 FWIW, I would expect something to be invitational in spades here and would so invite. My guess would be 3♦, as it allows Responder to indicate his minor with the weaker hands, but whatever is available. I think blasting hangs partner for really agressive overcalling, which is especially likely when he has clubs as his minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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