paulg Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=sahxxdakjxxxckqjx]133|100|Scoring: MP1♠ 2♦2♥ 3♣!3♥ ?[/hv]A 'future expert' has asked me about bidding this hand. At the table a confident 4NT (keycard in hearts) was bid and recognised as such, although they had not considered what to do over a one keycard response! What do you think 4NT should be in this auction? And if, like many future experts, a jump to 4NT is known to be keycard in the last named suit, what would bid? Finally, if 4NT is known to be quantitative, what would you bid if the ♣Q was the ♥Q (and you would now like to bid keycard)? Thanks Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 It's probably right to play: 4C=good heart raise (keycard in hearts starts with this)4N=quant If you are dealt a huge minor 2 suiter you are screwed and have to bid 5C or 6C, but from frequency point of view this must be better than 4C=natural and then you lose a good 4H raise, and either keycard in hearts or quant 4N. I suppose you could play 4C as even more ambiguous but I'm not sure how to make that playable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I do what Justin suggests - 4NT natural and 4♣ any good heart raise - and I think that's normal amongst good players in England. I prefer to play a jump in the fourth suit (1♠-2♦;2♥-4♣) as a strong two-suiter, so that I never have to worry about the possibility that an FSF-bidder has that. This part isn't normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I prefer to play a jump in the fourth suit (1♠-2♦;2♥-4♣) as a strong two-suiter, so that I never have to worry about the possibility that an FSF-bidder has that. This part isn't normal.LOL Separated by an ocean and a common language. "Normal" (standard/common), it is not."Normal" (rational/sane) it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 I think 4♦ is also a cue for hearts, so 4♣ shows ♣A an heart support. why didn't you bid 3♦? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted July 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 why didn't you bid 3♦?3♦ on the second round would not have been forcing in the methods being played. In 2/1 I'd probably bid 3♣ too, albeit showing rather than asking <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted July 1, 2009 Report Share Posted July 1, 2009 RKCB for hearts. If you have agreed that 4C is generic slam try for hearts, than 4NT quantitative is certainly a possible option. Of course the base system is important, if 3D would be nonforcing,than 4D now in the given auction would show a strong 1-suiter (...dont ask me, what the difference is if responder would have bid 4Dinstead of 3C). With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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