PetteriLem Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 EW vulNS non vul W N E S1♣ 1♦ p 3♦p p 3♥ What do you think east has? GIB shows K76 AQJT84 AK9 A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Alzheimers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Whatever he has, I wish I had some too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I don't know but West has a headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 3 hearts (the maximum possible)3 spades (the maximum possible)2 diamonds (he's the guy with shortness so he strained to act)3 clubs (didn't support me first round) significant disparsity between hearts and spadesno high honour in diamonds (he might have 1nt'd) gotta be something like xxxKJTxxJxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I think a 0-count with seven hearts. Of course it it not the right way to bid such a hand: you either have to bid immediately, or not at all. But is is the most plausible. Alternatively, 5-5 in the majors, again with zero points. There is some logic to that: a delayed action often suggests a weak hand with a shape that didn't fit in our preempt structure. We have ways of showing a weak one-suited hand immediately (by bidding 2♥ or 2♠) but not a weak 2-suited hand. By the same argument, a club/heart hand is possible, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I am also thinking of a long weak suit, maybe QJxxxxxx and out. Again, not thinking they've bid right, a LOL point counter perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Well, using logical GP of bridge... Weird, impossible action usually means fit. Hence, a club fit must exist. I'll assume that Responder had a reason to not raise earlier, or to bid hearts. Perhaps 1-3 is invitational or so in comp? If so, maybe partner has a weak hand with clubs. He might have bid 2♣ or 4♣ with that, one would assume. So, there must be a flaw. The flaw could be that his hand is swan-like, where he could not decide what to do. Maybe 6♣/4♥ and weak? He must have thought the auction would stay alive. So, he must have expected someone to bid something and for the auction to never die. My gut tells me that he should actually be wilder in shape and troubled by the flaw. Maybe 1-4-1-7? But, then why not just get in there with the clubs? Or, why reopen this can of worms? But, I think that's a plausible holding. Some sort of troubling heart-club two-suiter where he did not want to bid or not bid hearts and thought he could field things. But, then how can he exect this auction to make sense to partner now? What, he is masterminding the auction but wants to back in the hearts now? Bah. Responder is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Responder is insane. Well done Ken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 East has a joint and a bottle of whiskey, west has a severe headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uday Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 What if E is trying to recover from his inability to use a -ve X ? AQxAQxxxxxxxx I'm exaggerating the strength, of course, but something along those lines? Would this hand type simply X in balancing seat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwery_hi Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 What if E is trying to recover from his inability to use a -ve X ? AQxAQxxxxxxxx I'm exaggerating the strength, of course, but something along those lines? Would this hand type simply X in balancing seat? I would make a -ve dbl with this hand - I know it promises 4-4 in the majors, but AQx in each would certainly do. So I wouldn't think its an inability to negative dbl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 East wants a partnership breakup without wanting to be the first to bring it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 What if E is trying to recover from his inability to use a -ve X ? AQxAQxxxxxxxx I'm exaggerating the strength, of course, but something along those lines? Would this hand type simply X in balancing seat? A "balancing X" is for penalties here but yes if I were to pass 1♦ I would certainly double 3♦ for penalties. The alternative is to raise clubs immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 What if E is trying to recover from his inability to use a -ve X ? AQxAQxxxxxxxx I'm exaggerating the strength, of course, but something along those lines? Would this hand type simply X in balancing seat? Having passed initially I would make a penalty double with this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oof Arted Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 ;) long weak hearts unwilling to let 3♦ go possibly void in ♦ inviting you to either pass or correct Or of course he is a Kamikaze pilot :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoAnneM Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 This is a FltC bid showing hearts. This type of bid happens occasionally at my club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zasanya Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 This is a FltC bid showing hearts. This type of bid happens occasionally at my club.I assume FltC means less enlightened players like me.Please tell me what a player should do with 6+ ♥ 0-3 hcp, short ♦ when rho overcalls 1♦.Is preempting to 2 level with 6 cards and to 3 level with 7 cards the best plan?How is it better than passing and then bidding 3♥ as here?Why should 3♥ be dismissed as insane or suicidal?A reply without sarcasm would be much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetteriLem Posted June 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I suspect that people noticed the hidden text, but if you didnt... It was GIB playing and cold bloodedly passed 1st time. Very hard to imagine that it could be profitable in any simulation. If GIB was not going to defend 1♦ doubled, then how can it be right to pass? 3♥ promised unlimited hand with opening values, but I didnt quite believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I didn*t notice the hand you described, but I would be sure that I had never ever in my life thought about that hand. I had thought about a hand too weak for a weak two with extra trump length- but surely not of a monster like the one you showed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=s43h98765432d432c]133|100|[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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