jdonn Posted June 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 As opener facing the 4NT call, I would respond to RKC in spades. Even if partner intended it as RKC for hearts, I bet he's just as interested in the ♠K as the ♥K. In practice opener held the king of hearts and not the king of spades. So you would not show that as a keycard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Responder is almost assuredly 2533 for his 2NT call. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 As opener facing the 4NT call, I would respond to RKC in spades. Even if partner intended it as RKC for hearts, I bet he's just as interested in the ♠K as the ♥K. In practice opener held the king of hearts and not the king of spades. So you would not show that as a keycard? Correct, even though this would be wrong partnering myself (as I'd have bid 4♦ on any just-spades slam try) and it violates the last bid suit rule. I just think that a lot of people would think spades are "obviously" trumps here so I would cater to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcyk Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 My very good partner and I disagreed when this came up. I then asked two good players and they each agreed with one of us. 2/1, no special agreements. 1♠ 2♥2♠ 2NT3♣ 3♠4♥ What does the 4♥ bid mean, approximately? (Or specifically?)I have to look at the meanings of the bids.2♠ is a non-specific rebid, does not promise 6+ ♠s and is a minimum hand. It denies a 5-card minor suit and 3-card ♥ support.2NT over 2♠ is natural and shows something in the minors. It also denies 6+ ♥s and shows poor support (if any) for ♠s.3♣ is the better minor and denies 6+ ♠s3♠ shows 2-card ♠ support. With a singleton spade I would rebid 3NT instead of 3♠ and with a ♠ void I would raise ♣s with four (partner may only have three), bid 4♦ with 4 ♦s and less than 4 ♣ or rebid 4♥ (sigh)4♥ probably shows Hx of ♥s and a weak 5-card ♠ suit. you are left with the decision of wether to pass or bid 4♠, to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 A couple people have suggested that 1♠-2♥-2♠ denies three hearts. Is this a generally accepted agreement? Can the same be said of 1♠-2♥-3m? I would have though that a possible interpretation of opener's actions in the original post was a 6=3=1=3 hand stronger than what would be shown by 1♠-2♥-3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 A couple people have suggested that 1♠-2♥-2♠ denies three hearts. Is this a generally accepted agreement? Can the same be said of 1♠-2♥-3m? I would have though that a possible interpretation of opener's actions in the original post was a 6=3=1=3 hand stronger than what would be shown by 1♠-2♥-3♥. 1♠-2♥;2♠ can certainly be 6-3 in the majors: such hands belong in spades more often than not, so you have to repeat spades. Likewise, 3♣/♦ can include three hearts, because with a 5431 type you should explore all the possible strains. You can plan the descriptive sequence 1♠-2♥;3m-3NT;4♥. After 1♠-2♥;2♠-2NT, I think you should bid 3♥ on any hand where you're planning to play in hearts. (You might also agree to use 4♣/♦ as splinters for hearts on a 6313 type, though my preference would be that these be splinters for spades.) Finally, if you had followed this route with a 6313 shape, your spades ought to be good enough for you to be keen to play in spades opposite secondary support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 A couple people have suggested that 1♠-2♥-2♠ denies three hearts. Is this a generally accepted agreement? Can the same be said of 1♠-2♥-3m? I would have though that a possible interpretation of opener's actions in the original post was a 6=3=1=3 hand stronger than what would be shown by 1♠-2♥-3♥. Certainly at the time 2♠ was bid, opener could've had three hearts. But holding three hearts, after not raising at first turn it seems weird to now rebid 3♣ rather than raise at second turn. While I suppose one might consider 6-3-0-4 as a possibility, it seems like refusing to raise hearts twice on this shape will sometimes back partner into a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 I never raise hearts directly on a balanced hand with xxx, I rebid something else and back into hearts later in order to keep partner from getting excited. I am quite convinced that it's the right thing to do. But even if a 2♠ rebid can have three hearts, of course no hand with three hearts would then bid 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 21, 2009 Report Share Posted June 21, 2009 As opener facing the 4NT call, I would respond to RKC in spades. Even if partner intended it as RKC for hearts, I bet he's just as interested in the ♠K as the ♥K. In practice opener held the king of hearts and not the king of spades. So you would not show that as a keycard?IMO ♥ are agreed but anyway, in this auction, there should probably be 6 "aces" i.e. ♥K is a key-card, even if ♠ are trumps". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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