glen Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 See today's bulletin:USBF2009news9.pdf A Committee: Rose Meltzer, Chairman, David Berkowitz and George Jacobs, met to substantiate the fact that three players broke the smoking rule ...A fine of $250 per players was imposed to the USBF no later than July 15, 2009. In addition, each player will lose up to 12 Positioning Points earned during the year toward use in the next USBF Open Team Trials.Further, the Committee recommends establishing these penalties for 2nd and 3rd offenses.2nd offense - $1,000 fine and a one day suspension from the Event.3rd offense – a one year suspension from the USBF.$250 = nothing12 Positioning Points = ouch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Do you know what the "smoking policy" is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uday Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Yes. The event is hosted at a hotel. The hotel has rules ( presumably dictated by local law). The rule at the hotel is "No smoking in the hotel" and smokers have to exit the premises before lighting up. Thats a flight of stairs and 10 yards out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tola18 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Ah, so it is not a clothing rule as could perhaps be presumed? In some / many events the players are more or less mandatory to have representative clothes - thus in practice - in USA smoking for the men, it Sweden they would escape with a decent suit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 That's why it's called a tuxedo or a dinner jacket, to avoid confusion :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu1997 Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Do you know what the "smoking policy" is? If you are going to smoke, at least have the decency to look good. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3315/319888..._495c649b78.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Cant wait to find out who the three were. I have some guesses :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted June 13, 2009 Report Share Posted June 13, 2009 Cant wait to find out who the three were. I have some guesses :) It's in the bulletin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted June 14, 2009 Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Cant wait to find out who the three were. I have some guesses :P It's in the bulletin. ah. Shane was one of my guesses, but i bricked the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oof Arted Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 :D I think smokers should wear a bell so we can see and hear the lepers coming :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 IMHO, smokers should follow the rules --rule makers should take accommodation of smokers into consideration -- and non smokers should keep their personal judgements to themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 IMHO, smokers should follow the rules --rule makers should take accommodation of smokers into consideration -- and non smokers should keep their personal judgements to themselves. Do smokers keep the smoke they exhale to themselves? It seems an equally fair standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoAnneM Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Yes, don't ever criticize the spreading of second-hand smoke which has been proven to be more lethal than inhaled smoke itself. However, I do sympathize with those trying to beat what is acknowledged to be the worst addiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 IMHO, smokers should follow the rules --rule makers should take accommodation of smokers into consideration -- and non smokers should keep their personal judgements to themselves. Do smokers keep the smoke they exhale to themselves? It seems an equally fair standard.second-hand smoke is not a "personal judgement", and I, as a smoker, agree that inside smoking, where this could be a factor, should be banned. Given that, reasonable access to an outside location should be afforded whenever possible. We smokers should follow the rules, whether or not this occurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 :o I think smokers should wear a bell so we can see and hear the lepers coming ;) Don't you have a nose? That's how I know when they're coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 :o I think smokers should wear a bell so we can see and hear the lepers coming ;) Don't you have a nose? That's how I know when they're coming. I also have a throat -- that's even more sensitive to smoke, at least mine is. how feasible is it from forbidding an opponent from going on a smoking break, just so you don't have to deal with inhaling all the crap that gets stuck in their clothes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uday Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 You could offer the opp a stick of nicotine gum, that might tide him over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oof Arted Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 You could offer the opp a stick of nicotine gum, that might tide him over. :D You could ask TD's to carry a 'Febreeze' spray to sray their Clothes :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I don't smoke myself, but it seems too easy to jump on the anti-smoking bandwagon. I think if you give reasonable accommodation to the smokers, then it's a non-issue. I don't really understand such draconian measures against the smokers myself. I believe there should be some punishment, like fining some IMPs or something, but I think it's a bit harsh to punish people for their addiction. It's not like they are taking a banned substance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I don't smoke myself, but it seems too easy to jump on the anti-smoking bandwagon. I think if you give reasonable accommodation to the smokers, then it's a non-issue. I don't really understand such draconian measures against the smokers myself. I believe there should be some punishment, like fining some IMPs or something, but I think it's a bit harsh to punish people for their addiction. It's not like they are taking a banned substance! i somewhat disagree -- unless they shower and change their clothes after smoking, they are hurting me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 :D I think smokers should wear a bell so we can see and hear the lepers coming :rolleyes:From your username, I would guess you do not need a bell to announce your presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oof Arted Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 :o I think smokers should wear a bell so we can see and hear the lepers coming :rolleyes:From your username, I would guess you do not need a bell to announce your presence. :lol: mmmm this is only one of my aliases :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oof Arted Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I don't smoke myself, but it seems too easy to jump on the anti-smoking bandwagon. I think if you give reasonable accommodation to the smokers, then it's a non-issue. I don't really understand such draconian measures against the smokers myself. I believe there should be some punishment, like fining some IMPs or something, but I think it's a bit harsh to punish people for their addiction. It's not like they are taking a banned substance! :D I think those who wear silly Hats should be banned as well hehee :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I don't smoke myself, but it seems too easy to jump on the anti-smoking bandwagon. I think if you give reasonable accommodation to the smokers, then it's a non-issue. I don't really understand such draconian measures against the smokers myself. I believe there should be some punishment, like fining some IMPs or something, but I think it's a bit harsh to punish people for their addiction. It's not like they are taking a banned substance! i somewhat disagree -- unless they shower and change their clothes after smoking, they are hurting me. The anti smoking lobby has had its way too long. If you don't like it go somewhere else entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 The anti smoking lobby has had its way too long. If you don't like it go somewhere else entirely. Yes, silly me for insisting on clean air to breathe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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