H_KARLUK Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Uncontested. South opens 2♠ (weak single suiter) and North stops at 4 ♠. West leads ♦ K. How would you play ? :) [hv=d=s&v=n&n=sakthk76dat87cq73&s=sqj9732hq54d9ca54]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 It feels like the general idea should be to strip diamonds, try to finesse the K♣, and hope they'll either drop or underlead the A♥ for you, or let you ruff and discard a ♥ at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpace Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 It feels like the general idea should be to strip diamonds, try to finesse the K♣, and hope they'll either drop or underlead the A♥ for you, or let you ruff and discard a ♥ at some point. This line pretty much requires 2-2 trumps and a misdefence when the ♣K is offside. Is there a better line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 Just noticed my diamond spots. Might not hurt to throw a club on the second diamond. LHO can assuredly win, but I can run another diamond and throw a heart, playing RHO for the J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 It feels like the general idea should be to strip diamonds, try to finesse the K♣, and hope they'll either drop or underlead the A♥ for you, or let you ruff and discard a ♥ at some point. This line pretty much requires 2-2 trumps and a misdefence when the ♣K is offside. Is there a better line? It requires 2-2, but rather correct placing of opps card then misdefence?(I have a déjà vu when viewing this hand. Is it coming from a book or a web site?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 9, 2009 Report Share Posted June 9, 2009 This screams book hand. Answer hidden, though, in case B/I want to work it out. You win the diamond King with the Ace and lead another one from dummy, which conveniently (like book hands) has 1087 remaining, with the 9 secretly switched to South to make it less obvious. If this is not covered, ditch a club. If a club is returned, win the Ace and cross to dummy to lead another diamond. If this is not covered, ditch the other remaining club. Now, your last diamond will be good to pitch a losing heart. So, you will end up losing two diamonds and a heart. Of course, you need an assured entry back to dummy to cash the last diamond, as RHO might have the heart Ace. And, you want to make sure diamonds are not pre-maturely ruffed. So, your exact line will be to play RHO for at least three diamonds. When the second diamond is won by LHO and a club returned (hence not killing the diamond), you will cross to dummy pulling two trumps before leading the diamond, hoping RHO has either 4+ diamond or only 0-2 spades. You also ruff if RHO ever sticks on an honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Yes Ken, I agree with both your comments and your line of play. I am pretty sure I have seen this hand before. An easy trap to fall into is to try to eliminate the Diamonds. If all is bad, you have only 9 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpace Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 It feels like the general idea should be to strip diamonds, try to finesse the K♣, and hope they'll either drop or underlead the A♥ for you, or let you ruff and discard a ♥ at some point. This line pretty much requires 2-2 trumps and a misdefence when the ♣K is offside. Is there a better line? It requires 2-2, but rather correct placing of opps card then misdefence?(I have a déjà vu when viewing this hand. Is it coming from a book or a web site?) Say trumps are 2-2 and ♣K is offside. The line was to eliminate ♦ and play ♣A and ♣ to Q (or just ♣ to Q). In this line, defence can make sure that the person who does not hold the ♥A can win the third club and can thus lead a heart. If they don't, it can be considered a misdefence. No? I agree though, that there are some legitimate cases where this line works even if ♣K is offside and if you place the cards correctly (like doubleton Ax). But that is a very small chance I think (and that is why I said 'pretty much' instead of 'always'). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_KARLUK Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 What ? Eat grapes and question vineyards mood? :( Test trumps by cashing A. If trumps are 4-0 hope to find ♣K well placed for you. When both defenders follow to a round of trumps go ahead with loser on loser. One should plan to exchange three plain losers for two constructive losers + one ♦ winner. 1st discard should be ♣. Next discard must be a loser West attacked. Contract : 4♠ Lead : ♦ K[hv=d=s&v=n&n=sakthk76dat87cq73&w=s84ht83dkqj54cj95&e=s63haj92d632ckt82&s=sqj9752hq54d9ca54]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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