Bende Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 In an interview from 2001 at bridgematters.com, Chip Martel describes a defence to Swedish Club (weak balanced or any 16+) along the lines of: (1♣) -pass = a) weak, b) strong balanced or c) a hand that would open 1♥ or 1♠ in a natural 5cM systemdbl = a hand that would open 1♣ in a natural 5cM system1♦ = a hand that would open 1♦ in a natural 5cM system1♥ and higher = preemptive of some sort or other After a 1♣ opening, a negative 1♦ response and a major rebid by opener, dbl would be penalty oriented with either a strong balanced hand and four cards in their major or a hand that would like to open in their major. In addition (1♣) - pass - (1♦) - pass;(1♠) - 2♣ would show a hand with opening strength, 5+♥ and 4+♣. Does anyone have experience of or opinions on this defence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athene Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I am not that convinced (Martel does go on in that interview to say that he gave up playing the defence since it was a lot of hassle for not much upside, basically). I think the main problem is passing with your 1major openers. For example, suppose it goes: (1♣) P (1♠) P(2♠) ? And you have a 1♥ opener? You are really making life hard for yourself. Much nicer to be able to show the hearts right away. It seems to me he gives up too much to pass with a whole host of good and reasonably-good hands in order to use ALL high bids as pre-empts and sometimes get in a later penalty double when they walk into his suit (this isn't going to happen much). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I used to play: pass=8-14 BALx=15+BAL1♦=0-71M=natural 8-141NT=15+ unbalanced2♣=8-14 ♦ or both M2♦=8-14 ♥ or ♠+m2♥=8-14 ♥+m2♠=8-14 NAT Vulnerable pass and 1♦ switchedOn competitive hands we normally won 5-7 IMPs when opps opened 1♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Don't get the Norwegians started on Swedish club stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I used to play: pass=8-14 BALx=15+BAL1♦=0-71M=natural 8-141NT=15+ unbalanced2♣=8-14 ♦ or both M2♦=8-14 ♥ or ♠+m2♥=8-14 ♥+m2♠=8-14 NAT Vulnerable pass and 1♦ switchedOn competitive hands we normally won 5-7 IMPs when opps opened 1♣. Don't like this Harald. The 1D bid gives them too much room and too many options. Be a man and bid 1H with 0-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I play: Dbl = ♥1♦ = ♠1♥ = 4♥ and a longer side suit1♠ = 4♠ and a longer side suit1NT = 1 minor, constructiveHigher = Preemptive On competitive hands we normally won 5-7 IMPs when opps opened 1♣. That's a bold statement! Care to explain why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 On competitive hands we normally won 5-7 IMPs when opps opened 1♣. That's a bold statement! Care to explain why? And also why you stopped playing these methods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 With Shogi I play something similar but 1♥/♠ can be as good as 15 or such, i.e. close to normal overcall style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 On competitive hands we normally won 5-7 IMPs when opps opened 1♣. That's a bold statement! Care to explain why? And also why you stopped playing these methods? The main reason we won IMPs on most competitive hands is that opener has to pass with the weak NT and double (or bid) with all strong hands. Thus we normally got to play our partscore when opps had a better scoring contract reached at the other table (when opener had the weak NT) or competing was wrong with the strong hand (they went too much down or we would have gone down). It's not as much that I've stopped playing these methods as that we very seldom play against a 2-way 1♣ these days. And with new partners I haven't had the opportunity to play these methods for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DinDIP Posted June 6, 2009 Report Share Posted June 6, 2009 When I can, I get partners to defend as though they opened a weak NT but take advantage of the fact that we can act at the one level to include more hands, especially in our ASPTRO calls:P = weak or a hand that would have made a pen X of a weak NTX/1D = ASPTRO, 9-15 or so, could be 4432 1M = 5+, 9-15 or so (Now 1N is F1 and NS NF)1N = C+D or GF 2-suiter2m = 6+, 9-15 (NS and 2N F1)2M+ = weak We make a few adjustments from our normal defence to notrumps: we are happy to X with 4=4=x=y so play that a 1S rebid over advancer's 1D initially shows just 4S (but could be a min 5=4=x=y). With 5=4=x=y or 5=5=x=y and extras we rebid 2S. And we play that a 1N rebid after X or 1D shows some 4432 or 4441 hand; now advancer's 2C is a scramble (as advancer would have bid 2C directly with a long suit). After passing, 2nd hand doubles O's 1M/1N rebid (if this shows a weak NT) to show a pen X of 1N without shortage in the bid suit. With a good hand short in the bid suit he bids another suit or 1N (takeout). David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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