Hanoi5 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 W/R, pass on your right: ♠KJT764♥9♦3♣A9843 I thought this was a no brainer. I'll post a play problem about the same hand after some answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 This is a W/R 3♠ opener for me, but that might not be a popular bid on the forums. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I think 3S will be popular, 2 for 3S so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 I would rather open 4♠ than 2♠, but anyway I think 3♠ is much better than either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Well, I play 2♠ shows 5 spades + 5 another, and I'd normally open it as that at any other colours. But w/r, 3♠ may work out better, so add me to the 3♠ list. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 1♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 If you have a bid to show a 2 suiter, then clearly you use that. Else I would open 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 4♠ Hate missing games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 1♠ In second seat I do not like to mastermind my partner by describing this hand as a one suiter. If I would be certain that this would work more often then not, I would, but I am not . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 4♠ or 1♠. 3♠ and 2♠ are gross underbids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 3♠ , or 4♠ if I am feeling (very)lucky and brave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 4♠ or 1♠. 3♠ and 2♠ are gross underbids.2♠ is not a gross underbid, it is perverse. If that hand is 2♠, then what is: ♠ KJ10764♥ 987♦ 43♣ A9 or ♠ KJ10764♥ Q98♦ 43♣ 98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 1♠ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 [hv=n=saq9haj43da92cq76&s=skjt764h9d3ca9843]133|200|[/hv] Well, for those opening 2 or 3 you get to play 4♠. For those opening 1♠ or 4♠ you'll probably wind up in 6♠. 4♠ will get a diamond lead. 6♠ will get a spade lead. The question now is, how do you play the clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 If I did open 4♠ W/R, I would be very surprised if partner looked for a slam with the North hand. I won't be trying any intra-finesses. Assuming that we don't discover anything dramatic about the distribution, normal looks to be ♣A, then low to the Queen unless RHO dropped the J or T under the Ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 The ♣J is seen under the Ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 The ♣J is seen under the Ace. If RHO plays the Jack (or the Ten) under the Ace then you take the restricted choice line of playing low to the 7 next round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 The ♣J is seen under the Ace. If RHO plays the Jack (or the Ten) under the Ace then you take the restricted choice line of playing low to the 7 next round.It took 3 rounds of trump to get them out? Then your LHO can have fun with you.After letting you suffer and play the 7, RHO shows out :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 (edited) After a 4♠ opening responder has a clear-cut pass. After a 1♠ opening, we might well reach 6♠, because after 1♠-2♣;3♣ it's going to be hard to stop. 6♠ is only ♣J away from being excellent, and on the actual hands it's not far below 50%. I can't see anything better than to draw trumps and play two rounds of clubs. If East drops J or 10 and trumps were 2-2, I play the queen on the second round, because J10 / J / 10 is slightly more likely than KJ / K10. If East drops J or 10 and trumps were 3-1, I play the low on the second round, because J10 is less likely than KJ / K10. (Sorry - an earlier version of this post was nonsense.) Edited June 2, 2009 by gnasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I'm going to nitpick my own analysis now. If trumps are 3-1, I should cash ♣A before drawing the third trump. There might be an overtrick available if the hand with a singleton trump also has a singleton king of clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I can't see anything better than to draw trumps and play two rounds of clubs. If East drops J or 10 and trumps were 2-2, I play the queen on the second round, because J10 / J / 10 is slightly more likely than KJ / K10. Yes, but if trumps are 2-2 then low to the 7 still wins against singleton J, so it still comes back to the same KJ vs JT position, where low to the 7 is correct. It took 3 rounds of trump to get them out? Then your LHO can have fun with you.After letting you suffer and play the 7, RHO shows out ;)Sorry, no suffering involved. You just play the percentage line, knowing that you will not make the contract every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I can't see anything better than to draw trumps and play two rounds of clubs. If East drops J or 10 and trumps were 2-2, I play the queen on the second round, because J10 / J / 10 is slightly more likely than KJ / K10. Yes, but if trumps are 2-2 then low to the 7 still wins against singleton J, so it still comes back to the same KJ vs JT position, where low to the 7 is correct. It took 3 rounds of trump to get them out? Then your LHO can have fun with you.After letting you suffer and play the 7, RHO shows out ;)Sorry, no suffering involved. You just play the percentage line, knowing that you will not make the contract every time. sorry for injecting humor. Hence the smiley face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Do I have weak 2-level bids for S+C? (S+D? H+D? H+C?) I choose that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Do I have weak 2-level bids for S+C? (S+D? H+D? H+C?) I choose that. Don't you think we would have heard about that? Since the OP didn't specify that we were, it's a logical conclusion that we are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 Do I have weak 2-level bids for S+C? (S+D? H+D? H+C?) I choose that.Has anyone amassed a collection of gadgets which, although helpful to solve a particular forum hand bidding problem, would --if used--cause you to change the meanings of several other bids to describe more frequent hand patterns and playing strength? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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