H_KARLUK Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH1♦ 1♥ 2♦ DBL (TH OTHER 2 SUITS)PASS ? [hv=d=e&v=b&s=sk854hkqjt32dk6c7]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] Your partner is an unpassed hand, he had shown his values in black suits. So which card in your collection makes th difference ? In which suit and at wut level would you definitely wanna play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 2♠ for now.When partner invites I will accept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Like S-stuff over there. Have self-sufficient 6xH. 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 2♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 4♥, the most probable game. The ♥T is a huge card playing in hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackenbush Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 4♥. It's not clear how useful the hearts will be in spades, but they will be useful in hearts. It doesn't take much for this to make. I agree that ♥T makes a big difference. A 6-card suit with an excellent 4th-highest card doesn't need much support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 4H also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Fr Hrts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I have read the comments but I cannot construct more hands where 4 spade is worse then 4 heart then vice versa, so I woukld bid 3 ♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 I have read the comments but I cannot construct more hands where 4 spade is worse then 4 heart then vice versa, so I woukld bid 3 ♠. Really? Any hand where you can pitch spades on partner's clubs means you don't have to worry about spade losers so much when playing hearts. If partner has bad clubs, you might get forced out of your hearts when playing in spades.When is spades better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 When partner has bad clubs we may ruff them, whithout getting too short in trumps.When he has bad clubs, they lead them and I have to ruff twice which may be too much when one of the opps has 4 HEarts. And on which hand can you discard your spade loser on clubs? xxxx,x,xx,AKQxxx? Surely possible, but maybe not too likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 And on which hand can you discard your spade loser on clubs? xxxx,x,xx,AKQxxx? Surely possible, but maybe not too likely. No need for such drastic examples. Axxx xx xxx KQxx. QJxx xx Qxx AKxx and a 4-1 spade break. Etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 2♠ for now.When partner invites I will accept. Daredevil!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 And on which hand can you discard your spade loser on clubs? xxxx,x,xx,AKQxxx? Surely possible, but maybe not too likely. No need for such drastic examples. Axxx xx xxx KQxx. QJxx xx Qxx AKxx and a 4-1 spade break. Etc. But in your examples hand you are quite often down too when they realisze their spade ruff. Okay, maybe this is not too likely in example one, but there you will lose any game. And in example two they have more then one chance to realisze their spade ruff, so this is not the best example either. I guess when spades are 4-1 you are always in trouble, even in 4 hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_KARLUK Posted June 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Thanks so much for all nice inputs :P I hope at least one player agrees about : It could easily be right to play hearts and miss 5-4 spade fit, tho there's a risk to find weak fit. Partner was only competing. If he has good clubs and bad spades then picking a self-sufficient suit is fine. He only needs at least one ace to make game. Anyways noone can guess they are aceless or not. So i am really unsure about 3♦ correct sequence or 3♠ correct value. What I am sure - no offense please - if I am not dead wrong 3♥ is a game try with a great shape and 4♥ likely to work as a slight overbid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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