kgr Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 [hv=d=s&s=saqtxxxxxxxhdxcxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv]What do you open? How is vulnerability and level/agressiveness of your opps influencing your opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 The level of the TD does matter here. Since this hand barely fits the rule of 18 (10♠+2♣+ 6HCP = 18) I don't want to get a score correction because the TD feels that this hand is not strong enough for a strong 2 opening or not weak enough for a weak preemptive opening. I would start with 1♠, with only 6 HCP in my hand there is not much risk that this will be passed. This is my only chance to find out something about partners minor suits holdings. A t/o / or neg. dbl from partner over LHO's ♥ bid would be encouraging. Depending on vuln. I have no problem to reenter the auction with 4-7♠ if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 4♠, not selling out to 5x. Good hand for namyats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 The level of the TD does matter here. Since this hand barely fits the rule of 18 (10♠+2♣+ 6HCP = 18) I don't want to get a score correction because the TD feels that this hand is not strong enough for a strong 2 opening or not weak enough for a weak preemptive opening. I would start with 1♠, with only 6 HCP in my hand there is not much risk that this will be passed. This is my only chance to find out something about partners minor suits holdings. A t/o / or neg. dbl from partner over LHO's ♥ bid would be encouraging. Depending on vuln. I have no problem to reenter the auction with 4-7♠ if necessary. If you're worried about what the TD will think, in EBU land you're on dodgy ground opening 1 without 8hcp. I thought (could be wrong) that was a restriction inherited from the WBF - so I imagine other jurisdictions are the same. Of course, the wording of the restriction matters. In EBU land it says something to the effect that a partnership may not agree to open 1 with 7hcp or less. It doesn't actually say you can't do it without agreement. IMO you would get away with a strong 2 if you're playing them - as this suit can't possibly take less than 8 tricks - but I am not sure that you'll learn very much from partner even with that - seems highly probable that LHO is about to do something whatever lower level opening we pick. Tough hand to do the right thing - but then don't the legal people say something like "hard cases make bad law" or something. Personally I fancy 5♠ and see where the chips will fall. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 I'm between 4♠ and 1♠ or maybe 1♣ in precision... Depending on what system I'm playing, I may even open this a strong ♣ then accept partner's (hopefully) positive response, and Control Ask in Spades/Clubs/Diamonds from there, the only problem is that with 25 HCP, partner will leap to 7NT :D 1♠ seems somewhat pointless, since we won't be able to get a feel for the hand in time, so I think I'll try 4♠ although I could easily be convinced this is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flameous Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 I'll try a specific ace ask. After 5♣, 5♦ and 2A I'll try 6♠. After 5♥ I'll try my luck in 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 4S, will be unanimous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 4♠ for me is good enough. I may miss a slam, but PD isn't barred from looking for one with a good hand anyhow. EDIT ..and not selling to 5 either. A specific ace 4NT is interesting but you may still be set in slam opposite two aces not containing ♣ or be unable to pick up the K♠ and when PD has only the ace♥ you've helped the opps lead to set 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 4♠ is obvious as is taking the push to 5♠ IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 4♠ is obvious as is taking the push to 5♠ IMO. indeed. seems like the most sensible plan for the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 LOL Now that is a really intelligent comment! 4S for me and one of the rare times i will bid 5S over an opp's 5 level bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 4♠, but the worries about the TD if you open 1♠ are silly. 10-shooters are really rare (you need to play as much as bridge as mtvesuvius to ever see one, I've played 3 boards my entire bridge career with a 10-shooter) so the idea than any "rules" might apply is risible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 LOL Now that is a really intelligent comment! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 I would bid 5♠. Yeah I know its in general not inconsistent to bid 4♠ and bid on to 5♠ over opponents 5-level contract - we might get to buy it in 4♠ after all. With this hand, that seems very unlikely though. We know at least one opponent is short in spades, probably both. We only have 6 hcp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted May 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Thanks for the answers. I also opened 4♠ (considering 5 and 6). I didn't expect this to be passed out, but maybe one of the opps will DBL and the other opp will not have a good bid and will pass the DBL. It was at the club, but I didn't know the opps...maybe they were not very good and will take the wrong decision over 4♠, so why 5?bidding : 4♠-(DBL)-All pass.LHO was strong. RHO had a void in ♠ and a 7-card ♦ and opps can make 5♦.Partner had ♣AK.. and ♠Jx. 5♠X=Not sure what the best opening was against strong opps. Probabbly they would not pass the DBL. So maybe it is best then to open 4♠ and bid 5♠ over 5♦...Maybe RHO wants to bid ♦'s twice and is it better to give him that possibility by opening 3♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyc0002002 Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 2c psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winstonm Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 4-loser hand. I open 2C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted May 31, 2009 Report Share Posted May 31, 2009 Do I have a self-sufficient/solid opener with side void? Try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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