Science works here ?

[H_KARLUK]

Table 1

Opps silent

Partner                  You

2♣(22+ any)     2♦(Waiting bid)

2NT                   3♣(stayman)

3♦(no 4 card majors)      ?

 

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Table 2

Opps also silent

Partner                   You

2♣                          2♥(two controls: ace=2, king =1)

2NT(balanced)        3♠

3NT                          ?

 

What calls do you make and why please?

Thanks buddies

Hamdi

[Codo]

I would pass 3 NT in both cases.

 

Yes, we may fail in 3 NT with the heart suit wide open while we may have a grand slam in a minor.

 

But I have no minor suit stayman in my tool box, with this tool I had searched for 5 or 6 of the right minor.

[Cascade]

Was 2NT limited?

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

3NT and Pass.

 

#1 The main problem it seems, is that opener is still

unlimited.

If you want to discover 4-4 fits in the minors, there

are certainly systems after a 2NT opener out there,

which will help you.

 

#2 I dont play the methods, but I would say, that 3C

after 2NT should be Stayman.

As it is you showed your strength, you showed your

major, pass is clear.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[H_KARLUK]

Was 2NT limited?

2N=22-24; 3N=25-27; 4N=28+ Bal.

[kenrexford]

No good science in these auctions.

 

There is good science possible, though. Using a two-way strong opening structure of one type, Opener's 2♣ option would deny four spades (otherwise, open 2♦). 2NT, then, would show a balanced hand without four spades. In that event, your lack of need to explore spade contracts in the same way would and does enable more minor-suit exploration. For instance, 3♥ becomes a club flag and 3♠ a diamond flag; you can handle long spades for Responder through 3♣ easily if spades are out as 4+ suits. So, you could bid a simple 3♥ to show a club suit and either probish or slammish and see what partner does. If partner bids 3♠, a reciprocal flag showing diamonds (in case you have both minors, as you do), you raise diamonds.

 

If the focus of delayed 2NT openings was on shape concerns rather than tight little HCP ranges, the same end result would be possible. The partnership could easily play that 2♣-P-2♦-P-2NT shows 22+ with 4-5 spades and that 2♣-P-2♦-P-2♥(Shape-Kokish)-P-2♠-P-2NT shows 22+ with 2-3 spades. Defining length of one suit enables the partnership to restructure Responder's options so as to make better use of the space between 2NT and 3NT. That would enable this sort of sequence.

[Hanoi5]

After 2NT I like playing 3NT Baron. With only two Kings in front of the 22-23 HCP balanced hand a small slam doesn't look that good. Bidding would go:

 

2♣ 2♦

2NT 3NT (Baron)

4m (this is my first 4-card suit) 5m

Pass! (6m is more likely, though it should be bid by responder, so who knows...)

[dake50]

Haven't you warned of some short so fearing 3NT? Partner decided he fears no non-spade suit and wants no 6m try. You're done. Gave a good description of your hand. Got partner's decision.

[H_KARLUK]

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Tb 1 3NT

Nearly hopeless game.

Tb 2 6C

Virtually laydown slam.

[Hanoi5]

2NT by partner is probably a misbid.

 

2♣ 2♦

3♣ looks more like it.

[H_KARLUK]

2NT by partner is probably a misbid.

 

2♣ 2♦

3♣ looks more like it.

At first sight I could not get th reasoning behind it. It was early 1987. Both pairs were 'Big Boys'. They still are.

[Free]

Was 2NT limited?

2N=22-24; 3N=25-27; 4N=28+ Bal.

LOL (joining the club) :)