gwnn Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 1m-x-p-3m1M-x-p-3M what are these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 What about some 1-suiter? Then a cue followed by change of suit could show a more flexible hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 We play them as invitational 5/5 hands but not (1♠) X (Pass) 3♠ for some reason which I can't think of at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I play the first as a single-suited game force in one of the majors, too strong to jump to 4major. After 1C x P 3C P doubler can bid 3D to ask, other bids showing a very unusual hand. After 1D x P 3D P doubler bids 3H unless he has a very unusual hand, then 4m agrees hearts, 3S shows spades. I play the second as the same, but specifically the other major. As you say, that means that cue followed by a new suit is interested in more than one strain (either another suit or NT). I play 1m x 4m as weak (in HCP) hand with both majorsI don't think 1M x 4M is defined in our 'competitive bidding' file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 1. Both DAB (directional asking bid)= Western Cue Bid translated I believe, as the simple cue bid starts transfers. 2. I have the same agreement as Frances (1m) X (P) 4m which I believe to be standard 3. (1M ) X (P) 4M is undefined but consitent with other principles would be assumed to be a transfer with very long suit that does not have tenaces to protect...but I shall make a note! regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 1m-x-p-3m I have this defined as 44 majors, around 8-10 hcp. 1M-x-p-3M I don't have this one agreed. I think it would make sense to define it as a stopper ask with, say, xxxxxxxAKQxxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted May 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nuno, if 3m is 8-10 with 4 cards in both majors, why can't you just bid 2m and then 3M over CHO's 2M rebid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 I'm not sure where I got this from, but I thought it was normal to play either of these as something like AK10xxx in a minor, asking partner to bid 3NT with a stop and sufficient top tricks. I can't say I've ever bid it, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Nuno, if 3m is 8-10 with 4 cards in both majors, why can't you just bid 2m and then 3M over CHO's 2M rebid? That is the classical way to bid it, and you can certainly bid it that way. By assigning the jump cue to that hand, the cue 2m can become 11+ hcp always, making the classical auction forcing. Not that having a forcing auction here is terribly useful, but it certainly would make Ken happy :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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