How can I show my extra value

[cyc0002002]

1♥ 2♣ - -

2♥ ?

 

 

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[helene_t]

My partner bid 2NT with a similar hand but with a real heart stop in the same situation (I think) last weak. I wasn't quite sure if 2NT would be natural or showing 6♣4♦ in that situation. I think the latter.

 

I think it's ok to dbl now, or to start with a double, with this hand. Passing now is ok too, you have a good hand for defense and p might take you out to a doomed contract even when 2♥ would go down.

 

So I don't have strong feelings about it.

 

Btw double is take-out and shows ideally 1=3=3=6 oops I mean 3=1=3=6 .

 

Edit: Thanks Csaba for correcting

[gwnn]

I like pass, even though it's a little wimpy.

 

2NT would show 6♣4♦ and double would show 3-1-3-6, not 1-3-3-6 :)

[mikeh]

I would double.... if partner bids 3♦, he will usually have at least 5, and it isn't necessarily a disaster... while if he can bid spades, I like my hand. One of the downsides of defending is that declarer may have little choice but to drop my heart Q for lack of dummy entries.

 

Close tho... easy to see where bidding can go awry.

[the hog]

2NT would be terrible here. X at least allows you to play 2S.

[mich-b]

I would pass.

 

Bidding again can be dangerous - I have quite a lot of losers, and who knows, maybe LHO had a trap-pass there..

 

If the hand does belong to us there is a fair chance that partner will reopen , with either of 3♣, 2♠, double, or even 2NT (long ♦ +♣tolerance).

If pd can't bid any of those I think we did well to let them play 2♥.

 

Last point - if one feels he is too strong to pass now, maybe he should have started with a (big) double, which would be a (slight) overbid.

[whereagles]

Agree the hand is strong enough to double 1st round.

 

Now double 2♥, of course.

[P_Marlowe]

If you bid 3C, this already showes a good hand, so

I would just go with it.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[655321]

I would double.

 

Double might work out badly, but to me this is not a particularly close decision. We have fair extra values, and a hand suitable for playing in 2♠, 3♣, or even 2♥X.

 

The only other option is Pass. The answer to the question "How can I show my extra values" is almost always to double (takeout), rather than to rebid a suit when you have no extra length. Here, partner will assume a 6 card club suit, and 3♣ on AKxxxx is a poor choice.

 

I agree with the initial overcall (but could also live with double instead).

[JLOL]

obv x

[skjaeran]

Obvious double. Showing this general handtype, and a strong hand.

[jdonn]

I didn't think it was obvious, but I would double. I agree with prior comments that 3♣ would be very bad.

[ArtK78]

Double.

 

I would not have doubled the first time. 2♣ is clear IMO.

 

Change the Qx of hearts to the Kx, though, and the hand is MUCH better.

[neilkaz]

2♣ initially and double now seems to be the current expert standard here and with good reason, IMO.

[mtvesuvius]

2♣, now double.

[kgr]

obv x

x: 1st or 2nd bid?

[hanp]

Double 2H. This shows a good hand and is take-out oriented. The perfect shape would be 3-1-3-6 and partner will expect a little more than an opening hand. Given that our hand differs from the perfect shape by only 1 card and we have plenty of extra values I agree that this is a clear double.