mikegill Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 [hv=d=w&v=b&s=sxxhakxxxxdxxcxxx]133|100|Scoring: IMPp 1♣ p 1♥1♠ p 2♠ ?[/hv] You are playing support doubles but don't have any other special agreements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 You are playing support doubles but don't have any other special agreements. Pass then... Should be unanimous (but won't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 obvious pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Pass, although if g/b applied I'd find the 2N call at MPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 pass at imps3♥ at mps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Pass, although if g/b applied I'd find the 2N call at MPs.even if gb was not discussed, wouldn't your expert partner work it out? How about a fallback agreement that if the opps have bid and raised, 2NT can never be natural? Partner has two hearts, from failure to rebid clubs or open one diamond and it just seems wrong to let the opps play an 8 card fit at the two-level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 3♥ Might pass at matchpoints where they will have itchier trigger fingers (but would probably bid anyway). Partner passed over 1♠ - yes, probably not 3♥, but also not 6 clubs. Most likely partner has a balanced minimum, when 2♠ will usually make, but partner will have no choice but to pass out 2♠. I expect 3♥ to make often enough (for 6 IMPS compared to the pass) for bidding to be worth while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Looks like an easy pass to me, partner has a stiff heart sometimes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 This is a lot easier if you play that 1♣-P-2♥ shows an intermediate hand with hearts (high-end weak two). If you think this is worth bidding 3♥ now, because the AK combo is undervalued in the 6-card suit, you bid 2♥ the first time. If not, you don't. Either way, you make the decision befoe the opponents even find spades. Of course, that's not the question presented. Just a thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I'd rather Dbl than bidding 3♥... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyc0002002 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I'd rather Dbl than bidding 3♥... Is the direct 3H more powerful? I'm not sure with this.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Looks like an easy pass to me, partner has a stiff heart sometimes! But usually not when opps have a fit and pard didn't even bid 2♣ over 1♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I'd rather Dbl than bidding 3♥...Double seems to me to be a clear error. If partner bids diamonds (as surely he is allowed to do over a takeout double) you are stuck, because 3♥ would be forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I'd rather Dbl than bidding 3♥... Is the direct 3H more powerful? I'm not sure with this.. No, the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo81 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Suppose our minors were reversed and partner had opened 1♦. Now it is impossible for partner to have a singleton heart unless he did not bid with 3-1-5-4 shape or the opponents have only seven spades. In the above case I would bid 3♥, and I don't think it's particularly close. I agree with pass on the posted hand and auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I play transfer lebensohl here, I would bid 2NT followed by 3H. (3D would be invitational at least.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I pass. I'm not sure why I want to bid if partner has a doubleton heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I pass. I'm not sure why I want to bid if partner has a doubleton heart.not "sure" either, but, it is certain to me he does (have two hearts), unless he has failed to open or rebid correctly, and it is very likely that both sides have two eight-card fits. Whether or not the LAW is your cup of tea, I dont think we want them playing at the two-level, So 2NT followed by 3H if that is your style, or whatever gets you to 3 Hearts and not four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 it is certain to me he does (have two hearts), unless he has failed to open or rebid correctly Why can't he be 3145? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Partner raises 3H to 4H sometimes imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 because he would open a prepared 1D? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 because he would open a prepared 1D? Most don't do that all the time, and some don't do that any of the time. Anyway as I read your post, it essentially amounts to telling me that it's ok if I don't agree with the law, but I should follow the law here. Which I don't agree with. Have you also considered that opponents may have just seven spades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 because he would open a prepared 1D? Most don't do that all the time, and some don't do that any of the time. Anyway as I read your post, it essentially amounts to telling me that it's ok if I don't agree with the law, but I should follow the law here. Which I don't agree with. Have you also considered that opponents may have just seven spades?yes if a four card overcall or a strange 2S advance, then they would only have 7 spades. Am surprised to learn that so few players would open 1D with 3 1 4 5 and a minimum. They are not prepared for an uncontested auction either. If the diamonds were so bad and the clubs so good, pard might have rebid 2C after the overcall to prevent my problem now (and possibly create another one, admittedly). I was just thinking of what MY partners would have to open one club and not have a rebid after the spade overcall. And no, certainly everyone "agrees" with the LAW whether they call it that, or not.Was just giving another way of judging this hand without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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