Cascade Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) [hv=d=e&v=n&s=s10hk86da109864ca63]133|100|Scoring: MP(3♠) ?[/hv] Supplementary question: Would you act differently under some different condition (but still over 1st seat 3♠) - change the vulnerability or method of scoring? Edited mistype - the opening is definitely 3♠ Edited May 20, 2009 by Cascade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Probablt sick and minority, but I feel like I have to. Stiff spade and all. Double, planning ELC 4♦ over 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 First rule of matchpoints, never, ever, volunteer for a minus score when you have some reasonable possibilities of a plus score. Easy pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Agree with Curt. Very easy pass at any form of scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Pass is your friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I would pass. The singleton spade very much makes me want to bid, but the rest of the hand is not so good. If we have a game, partner will often be able to act - e.g. bidding 3NT with his balanced 15 in passout seat. But I am not sure why anyone can confidently expect 3♠ to go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I would double and I don't think it's all that sick, especially white all at MP. Passing 4♣ of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Easy pass, and I think it is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Easy pass, and I know it is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Funnily the last time such a hand came uup anybody said: You have to act with shortness to protect partner. Partner with say Axx,AQx,Kxx,QJx may not be able to bid 3 NT after we passed, so passing is far from obvious to me- we may miss even a slam while defending 3 Spade. But I guess that the majority at the club would act as the majority here (a seldom event) and pass. So I do not need to take a top/bottom descission on this hand and pass too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I would be more worried about having insufficient strength than about not having 4♥... Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Funnily the last time such a hand came uup anybody said: You have to act with shortness to protect partner. Partner with say Axx,AQx,Kxx,QJx may not be able to bid 3 NT after we passed, so passing is far from obvious to me- we may miss even a slam while defending 3 Spade. After 3♠-pass-pass, 3NT is automatic with that hand. It's true that a hand with short spades should strain to act, but a hand with 16HCP doesn't need any protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Funnily the last time such a hand came uup anybody said: You have to act with shortness to protect partner. Partner with say Axx,AQx,Kxx,QJx may not be able to bid 3 NT after we passed, so passing is far from obvious to me- we may miss even a slam while defending 3 Spade. After 3♠-pass-pass, 3NT is automatic with that hand. It's true that a hand with short spades should strain to act, but a hand with 16HCP doesn't need any protection. The 16 HCPS may result in up 13 tricks .... so maybe a hand like xxx,AQx,Kxx,QJx Axx,Qxx,Kxx,QJx Axx,AQx,xxx,QJx etc.... may need your protection.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Hearts, schmearts. Double. Obviously going to pass 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 At Mp's with no-one vulnerable, I might conjure up a double. Any other scoring or vulnerabilety, and I pass easily. Note that you should compete more fiercely when all are white, than when you opponents are vulnerable. With opponents vulnerable, two down undoubled is an "out" that will sometimes make your day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wclass___ Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Pass obv. 6331 is one of my favourite shapes, because, IMO, many bridge players (typically adv-experts) tend to overbid with this shape (probably psychological reasons). 3-3 so many times turns out to really bad combination. There also might be problem to get rid of partners spade losers in likely 4♣-4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I would double. The person with shortage needs to act. That means ME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Anything but pass is sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Easy pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted May 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=s10hk86da109864ca63]133|100|Scoring: MP(3♠) ?[/hv] If you pass the auction continues: (3♠) Pass (4♠) Pass;(Pass) ? I assume we are still passing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=s10hk86da109864ca63]133|100|Scoring: MP(3♠) ?[/hv] If you pass the auction continues: (3♠) Pass (4♠) Pass;(Pass) ? I assume we are still passing? Y'all boxed yourselves into consistency, right or wrong, I'd hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Yes we are passing and considering our lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=s10hk86da109864ca63]133|100|Scoring: MP(3♠) ?[/hv] If you pass the auction continues: (3♠) Pass (4♠) Pass;(Pass) ? I assume we are still passing? Pass is still your friend :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Good news ... You can beat 4♠ Bad news ... The entire hand: [hv=d=e&v=n&n=shaqj32dqj52cjt72&w=saqj75ht54dk3cq98&e=sk986432h97d7ck54&s=sthk86dat9864ca63]399|300|Scoring: MP(3♠)Pass (4♠) Pass(Pass) Pass[/hv] Should partner have acted over 4♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Good news ... You can beat 4♠ Bad news ... The entire hand: Dealer: East Vul: None Scoring: MP ♠ [space] ♥ AQJ32 ♦ QJ52 ♣ JT72 ♠ AQJ75 ♥ T54 ♦ K3 ♣ Q98 ♠ K986432 ♥ 97 ♦ 7 ♣ K54 ♠ T ♥ K86 ♦ AT9864 ♣ A63 (3♠)Pass (4♠) Pass(Pass) Pass Should partner have acted over 4♠? I agree with 655321, North's pass was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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