hanp Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Q10xxxJxxAK10xx White against red, LHO deals. IMPs. (2H) - p - (4H) - 4S(p) - p - (5H) - p(p) - ?? You may not agree with the earlier passes, comments are very welcome. If you can stand my bidding this far, what would you do now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Double was beyond obvious at my first turn. I would bid 5♠ now I suppose, but it would have been nice to describe my hand at a more convenient level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 most obvious 5S bid ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Would also have doubled in the first round. And now I will bid 5S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I don't mind passing first round. Bidding 5 Spade will lose when 10 tricks for both sides is the limit. May happen, but still a 5 spade bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Am I the only one who would have bid over partner's 4S bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Maybe. Anyway, 5♠ now :) I'd probably have doubled 2♥ :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 The five-level belongs to us. Don't feel strongly about you first pass. Your 2nd pass would be interesting to discuss with p. With this hand I would rather double first than invite slam over 4♠, but with a less ideal shape for double (say 2-6 minors with thin clubs) maybe I should invite slam despite having passed over 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhams Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 this hand is more better than normal,6♠ is at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 IMP's. Equity. Insurance. 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 5♠ for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDean Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I agree with the first two passes, (I would strongly disagree with bidding the second time). I don't think this call is obvious: many of the constructions I come up with have both 5 level contracts down, but I would bid 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Clear double round 1 and have an easy 5♠ now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I'd have doubled the first time and passed the second. At IMPs, 5♠ is a must now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Thanks for the responses. At the table 5SX went for 300 while 5H would have been down 2. Of course we both agreed that 5S was clear, but my partner said he would have doubled 2H. He had AJxxxx x xxxx xx, clubs split 3-3, Kx of spades onside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I really hate your partner's bid, it's a wtp pass. But still I admit it's a bit lucky 4♥ goes down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Han, with whom were you playing, a pu partner? 4S is an awful bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Am I the only one who would have bid over partner's 4S bid? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Thanks for the responses. At the table 5SX went for 300 while 5H would have been down 2. Of course we both agreed that 5S was clear, but my partner said he would have doubled 2H. He had AJxxxx x xxxx xx, clubs split 3-3, Kx of spades onside. When did the standard drop for four-level overcalls to below what we need to open a weak two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFormaini Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Would also have bid over 4♥. Bid 5♠ now. Not even close to a double or a pass. Would consider bidding 6♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I like double. It's close, though (the t's are the tiebreaker imo) and I can live with your initial pass. 4♠ is nuts at any other colors. Here it's hyper-aggressive but I grudgingly admire it. Bidding 5 over 5 without a void or a known MONSTER fit or double fit ... Shrug. It's not like 7 IMPs (+200 vs -100) is particularly cheap 'insurance.' While I'd probably bid 5♠ I wouldn't consider it 'clear'. I'd more hope to get lucky (and find it easier to justify in the post-mortem if it's wrong than never showing support with this hand.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFormaini Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 jon: I admire your logic - but that damn 10 of clubs is SO alluring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I gave the hand just because I know that some people are always interested in it. I don't mind my partner's 4S bid but if you are dying to find the identity of the 4S bidder you may be able to find out. I thought my hand was interesting, I appreciate the comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 jon: I admire your logic - but that damn 10 of clubs is SO alluring! Indeed it is: Without 10 With 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Q10xxxJxxAK10xx White against red, LHO deals. IMPs. (2H) - p - (4H) - 4S(p) - p - (5H) - p(p) - ?? You may not agree with the earlier passes, comments are very welcome. If you can stand my bidding this far, what would you do now? The original pass over 2♥ was not the point of this thread, but so many of you said that you would have doubled 2♥ that I have to go back to it. It would never have occurred to me to double 2♥. IMO, a direct seat action over a preempt has to show solid values - an above-average opening bid or a pure takeout double. This hand is either not even an opening bid or just barely an opening bid. Yet most of the posters say they would have acted in direct seat over 2♥. Have the standards for direct actions over preempts fallen so dramatically (just like the standards for opening the bidding)? Or are the posters just hyperactive? [As for fourth-seat's 4♠ bid, grudging admiration is not the term I would use to describe it] I would have passed over 2♥ and my partner would have passed over 4♥. We would have collected 100 and gone onto the next hand without any problem. Admittedly, we might have missed a good sac in 4♠, but life is tough sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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