jmcw Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 [hv=d=s&v=n&s=stxhxdakqtxxxxcax]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] You open 1♦ LHO bids 1♥ partners passes and RHO bids 1NT Your bid? Is this an automatic DBL? and if so what does it mean? Thanks for the comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Double is pointless with this hand, though I do think it should show good diamonds. With a strong balanced hand you pass. Although maybe double should be a good takeout of hearts. The reason it is pointless is that LHO won't pass if RHO has a diamond stopper, and RHO won't pass if RHO does not have a diamond stopper. In the meantime, you haven't shown your hand. I would bid 3H, which does show our hand. It is preemptive but keeps 3NT in the picture, it is possible that partner has the heart king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonottawa Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I pass, pard is broke and stuff so we don't have game. He's a big favorite to hold 4 ♠ and didn't make a negative double or something. LHO might even get greedy and bid 3NT and I'll take my +250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Double is obv takeout of hearts with extras. I would bid 2H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Yes double is definitely takeout of hearts, surprised there could be debate about that (well maybe there isn't). I like 3♥ here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I would bid 4♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 3♥ if I'm feeling scientific. Pass + take unilateral action based on opponents' bidding if I feel like gambling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 There are pairs who play that 1 NT does not promise a stopper but a balanced hand. Against these pairs any bid below 3 Diamond gives them too much room to ask for a stopper.So I would bid 3♦ 3♥ would be my second choice, but I would like to have a card in spades for that bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 I would have bid 2♥ irl, but I like the 3♥ idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CayugaGuy Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I think all these 3♥ bidders are living in dream worlds. If EAST is a mediocre player, they hoave a diamond stopper. And after a heart lead and a shift to clubs to knock the ACE out of dummy, just how do you plan on makeing 3NT even if partner DOES have a ♥ stopper? I think 3♦ is the right bid here. Long, strong diamond suit - an outside car - but not enough to ensure 3NT if partner has a heart stopper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I think all these 3♥ bidders are living in dream worlds. If EAST is a mediocre player, they hoave a diamond stopper. And after a heart lead and a shift to clubs to knock the ACE out of dummy, just how do you plan on makeing 3NT even if partner DOES have a ♥ stopper? I think 3♦ is the right bid here. Long, strong diamond suit - an outside car - but not enough to ensure 3NT if partner has a heart stopper. I think East is living in a dream world if he is not allowed to bid 1NT with AJx Kx Jxx Qxxxx or Kxxx Qx Jx Axxxx (if partnership disallows 1♠). There are lots of times where they have no other bid but 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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