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Both Vulnerable, partner's dealer, you hold:

 

T8xxx

KJxx

void

T8xx

 

It goes:

 

1 X ???

 

You play Bergen over the double (inb4LOL). What do you bid?

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let opp guess

Agree with the sentiment that you want to let the opponents guess, but I feel strongly that you should make it more expensive for them to guess wrong and make it harder for them to guess right by bidding 4H.

 

Bids like 4H on hands like this have been big winners for me in practice.

 

Also, if you bid 3H your partner will not play you for a hand like this (at least my partners wouldn't and I tend to be fairly conservative when it comes to making preemptive raises). You will miss some good 4H contracts as a result.

 

Fred Gitelman

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It's close between 3 and 4 for me.

 

The best reason IMO, as Fred mentions, is that you might miss a good game. However, whenever my partner and I make a PJR, we aren't busted and have some 'surprise'. We have 'two' big surprises.

 

With 5 spades, they aren't apt to guess to bid 4 over 4. If they bid 5, it might well make.

 

What happens (to me anyway) is that my LHO has a smattering of points when I bid 4 with hands like this. One of two bad things usually happens: my LHO has a smattering - 10-12 points, but no good suit to bid, so makes a responsive double. My RHO usually leaves it in. Or, partner expecting a slightly different hand takes the push to 5.

 

Still, bidding our games has to take priority, so I will bid it at r/r.

 

At r/w I would pull back with 3.

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4 a million percent. I can't even pretend it's close, I think 3 is just horrible. You can't evaluate hands with voids in a situation like this and you might make game so bid game. And why not make things harder for the opponents in the process?

 

my LHO has a smattering - 10-12 points, but no good suit to bid, so makes a responsive double. My RHO usually leaves it in.

I hope so! If I bid 4 on this hand a million times and found the most common score achieved, I bet it would be 790 (more than 620 even).

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I think its clear to bid 3H vul with 4 trumps and a void or with KJxx and a stiff. So this hand is a trick stronger than a regular 3H bid, so the risk of missing game by bidding just 3H is too big for me.
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Richard, what happened to you, 3H? Did you recently become a father?

I'm spending most of my free cycles trying to close on a house...

 

Apparantly, my hand evaluation is

 

1. Suffering

2. Skewing towards the conservative

 

On the bright side, I might actually be closing tonight / tomorrow

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