mtvesuvius Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Nobody Vul. at IMPs you hold: A9xxxx---------KQT9xxQ (1NT) - Pass - (2♦) - ? 1NT was 14-162♦ was a transfer Your bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Super-duper Leaping Michaels? I mean, 2♥ seems like the default bid, but 4♥ might be interpreted correctly. 3♥, IMO, might be taken as gambling without a stopper. I think I'd just low-ball 2♥, myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 2♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 I just bid 2♥, michaels. I can hopefully get in some number of diamonds later. If I just bid 4♥ now 1) partner's brain will explode, and 2) He still may not know what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 2H, assuming it is Michaes. Even uniscussed, partner wont pass,I get a 2nd chance to bid, and partnermy understand it next round. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Wouldn't be sure that 2♥ would be understood. Is X now, followed by up to 4♠ later, clear in that case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 The bidding could easily be at 4H when it gets back to us, and it won't be so easy to mention diamonds at that stage. Would it be terrible to make a lead-directing double now and hope to bid 4S later? Edit: lol. Vuroth beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 If I double now and bid 4S later partner will never believe I have 6 spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Nobody Vul. at IMPs you hold: A9xxxx---------KQT9xxQ (1NT) - Pass - (2♦) - ? 1NT was 14-162♦ was a transfer Your bid? 2h Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiddity Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 If I double now and bid 4S later partner will never believe I have 6 spades. If the auction goes 1NT-P-2D-X; 2H-P-P-4S he might. He may be unsure of whether we have 5 or 6, but he will be clear on the fact that our shape is extreme and that we have strong diamonds. Meanwhile, I don't see how bidding 2H will get the 6 spades across. If you follow up by bidding diamonds partner may think you're 5-6. If you follow with more spades, partner won't appreciate the diamond strength. He might not even know for sure which minor is ours, and there's a very real chance of LHO bidding 3H over our 2H and making life difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Depends. Some people play a x as showing Ds and a 2H bid as takeout.If I had the Michaels agreement, then 2H is a given. Otherwise I bid 2S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I have the agreement that 2 ♥ is the take out. Suboptimal for this hand. (Else this is a non problem anyway- you have a bid to show a two suiter with spades and you have a two suiter with spades. So hwat is the question again?) I think double followed by x spade shows my hand and x will be up to 4 depending on the bidding so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 2♥. 3♥ is possible but I'm not sure its to my benefit to crowd the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 2♥ + drive alone to the 5 level seems obvious. For a beginner, however, I recommend 2♠ + some nr. of diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 2♥. 3♥ is possible but I'm not sure its to my benefit to crowd the auction. I've had this auction before and partner intended it as "bid 3NT with a stopper." I don't recall the hand but at the time this idea worked out very well. I might be convinced it's better to play it as something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I have the agreement that 2 ♥ is the take out. Suboptimal. Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I have the agreement that 2 ♥ is the take out. Suboptimal. Agree. What would a subsequent double of 2♥ be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I have the agreement that 2 ♥ is the take out. Suboptimal. Agree. What would a subsequent double of 2♥ be? For most sane people, takeout. Hence why an immediate 2♥ is usually Michaels. If the initial 2♥ is takeout, Advancer cannot convert that too often. I suppose a hand exists where passing 2♥ for takeout makes sense, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 I have the agreement that 2 ♥ is the take out. Suboptimal. Agree. What would a subsequent double of 2♥ be? weak take out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted May 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 So, it looks like 2♥ is the consensus here... The auction continues: (1NT) - Pass - (2♦) - 2♥(Pass) - 2NT - (3♣) - ? Now what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 15, 2009 Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Assuming that 2NT shows game interest (3C is pass correct) I would bid 4H. Partner knows we have spades and diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted May 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2009 Assuming that 2NT shows game interest (3C is pass correct) I would bid 4H. Partner knows we have spades and diamonds. OK, and what about this auction: (1NT) - Pass - (2♦) - 2♥(Pass) - 3♣ - (3♥) - ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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