gnasher Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Pa 1♥ Pa 1♠Pa 2♣ Pa 2♦Pa 3♣ Pa ??? 4♣. Now we both know what trumps are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I am happy to bypass 3 NT opposite a 55 hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Now 1♥ 1♠2♣ 2♦3♣ 4♣ Hand is pretty good, even opposite a min. It's a matter of finding controls now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Now 1♥ 1♠2♣ 2♦3♣ 4♣ Hand is pretty good, even opposite a min. It's a matter of finding controls now. Well, that seems to be the key. If 4♣ is needed to set trumps, controls is an issue, as well as overall strength, with four available calls to explore that, or 12 auctions. When 3♣ set trumps, we had additional space involving 3♦, 3♠, 3NT, and 4♣, as well, and the number of auctions increases tremendously. Over 150 auctions. Opener also had 3♦, or 3♠, to set trumps as well, both splinters and both control-bidding initiations with their own permutations. Now you get to several hundred auctions. So, setting trumps one level lower (3♣) is better, and having Opener enabled to set trumps below 4♣ with two other descriptive calls (3♦ or 3♠) adds a ton as well to the descriptive power. Actually, 4♦ could also be included, as a fit jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 I play: 1♥ - 1♠2♣ - 3♦ = Forcing raise with clubs. Loses the splinter, gains on other hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 That's funny. For me that would be a natural GF 55 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 What if it would have gone 1♥ 2♣3♠ 3NT and instead goes 1♥ 1♠2♣ 2♦3♣ 4♣ I don't think that we necessarily have more (useful) information after starting 1♠, or that even if we do it's necessarily worth the cost of having to guess to bypass 3NT or not before you know it's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted May 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 From the looks of it we'll reach the same contract I did: 1♥ 1♠2♣ 2♦3♣ 4♣4♥ 5♣Pass Partner's hand: ♠---♥AKJT9♦Q9x♣Q8xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Wow I got that last post in just in time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Well, 7 votes for 1♠. The tray goes back and forth: Pa 1♥ Pa 1♠Pa 2♣ Pa ??? Your choices: a. 2♦b. 3♣c. 3♥d. 3NT 2d 4sf to game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Then we have: Pa 1♥ Pa 1♠Pa 2♣ Pa 2♦Pa 3♣ Pa ??? Your choices: a. 3♦b. 3NTc. 4♣d. Something else. 4c nowover 4c... 4d is rkc for clubs I hope. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 From the looks of it we'll reach the same contract I did: 1♥ 1♠2♣ 2♦3♣ 4♣4♥ 5♣Pass Partner's hand: ♠---♥AKJT9♦Q9x♣Q8xxx yes i reach 5c, agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Wow I got that last post in just in time! Too late for me. But, I'd have that same auction with some people (3♠-P-3NT) or with others (because the club honor situation is questionable) a simple 3♣-P-3♠-P-3NT sequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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