whats your bid

[Old York]

Double with the West hand is very weird, it wouldn't occur to me even in England, much less with a non-British p.

Sorry, I was just stating the facts and not suggesting that double was correct.

 

The interesting part of this hand is what happens after:

1♣-(1♦)-pass-(1♠/1NT)

pass-(??)

after 1♠ some rebid 2♦ or 1NT which cannot be right?

after 1NT many passed

 

It is imperative to find the Heart fit on this hand

 

Tony

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

playing standard methods, it is hard to discover the heart fit.

 

After the normal start

 

(1C) - 1D - (Pass) - 1S (1)

(Pass) - ???

 

(1) I agree, 1S is more sane, than 1NT ( :lol: ) or 1H,

but I never claimed to always bid in a sane manner

 

You have a problem:

 

#1 The hand is not good enough to bid 2H

#2 One is missing a club stopper

#3 One is missing a spade (or two spades)

 

=> It is either Pass (if 1S is nonforcing) or 2D, or if 1S

promised a reasonable suit 2S.

After a 2D bid , the partner has an fairly easy 2H, showing 5-4

in the majors, in which case you discovered your heart fit.

 

But the overcaller has to make the right decision, and it is not

always 100% clear cut, which one he should make, depending

of course on methods.

 

You have it easier, if you played the polish notrump, the given

hand is a brilliant example, why some people like to play this

convention: A 1NT overcall show 5 diamonds and a 4 card

major, 8-15HCP).

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

 

PS: To complete the short description of the polish NT:

After a major suit opening a 1NT overcall showes 4 card in the

other major and a 5 card minor suit with 8-15.

And a 2C / 2D overcall usually denies a 4 card major suit.

(I am not advocating it.)

[bid_em_up]

1♠, 1♠, and 1 spade are all viable alternatives.

Agree