Your plan?

[mikeh]

Yes you give a lot of explanation about the question, the answer, explanation of the question, etc. But what I was wondering was why your mind drifts to that particular question in these cases. No one who talks about landy on the forums seems to be questioned about their ethics.

because my experience has been that the players that I have encountered, in real life, who use this approach tend not to announce it.

 

These fora may have become, or maybe always were, more of an opportunity for each of us to express ourselves than for readers to learn, but I assume that learning still goes on.

 

Anyone reading these posts, in which players strongly criticize normal (if conservative) actions, proclaiming that "I" never pass an opening bid, might form the impression that that sort of action is 'normal', to the point that they might adopt it without ever understanding that their opps will be misled. I don't care if anyone plays any method they like.... in a long match, with proper advance disclosure.. almost anything goes... and in short matches or mps, I tend to be more liberal than most tournament organizers, even tho these days I don't experiment much myself.

 

But I do feel. and feel strongly, that it is fundamentally unfair to present as playing 'standard' while in effect treating a 1-level opening bid as forcing while not disclosing it. I was going to write that 'I assume that you disagree... which, frankly, surprises me.. I thought of you as someone who likes to win by outplaying the opps, not by having secret agreements with partner'.

 

However, I am certain that you, and indeed everyone who has posted here suggesting that they respond on zero counts, do in fact prefer to win on skill... and maybe we are misunderstanding each other.

 

Your point about Landy is silly... the point would be fair only if a poster, discussing Landy, were to proclaim that he uses the landy 2♣ routinely to show 5-3 in the majors.... and that when asked the meaning of 2♣ were to reply 'major 2 suiter'. If someone posted that, I wouldn't object to their (silly) treatment but I would ask if they gave a proper explanation.

[gwnn]

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[kfay]

I bid 3♣ now.

 

Reading through the posts I like 2NT but....

[jdonn]

FYI I am quite far from responding to all opening bids, and more conservative in that regard than most of my friends.

[Codo]

I think there is a reason why nobody of the "obvious bid" posters did respond to the question what to do in the later bidding.

 

If you respond with this hand, you need a real good set of rules to come out at a convenient level.

 

Of course I would bid ifsay, 1 ♦ 1 ♠ is a transfer to club.

I would bid if 1♦ 3 ♣ shows this hand.

 

I would bid if 1♦ 1 NT 2 NT 3 ♣ shows this hand.

 

In my world all of these bids show other hands, so I cannot show it. It is an easy pass, despite the fact that the trick taking potential is much higher then many random 6 or 7 HCP hands.

 

And I would prefer a normalo 3 ♣ to a 2 NT later, because 2 NT looks like xy36 to me too.