kenrexford Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 The problem with overcalling planning to double later is that it goes all pass a lot. RHO is never balancing, and partner needs much more to bid than he does over a 1 level overcall, so if LHO passes you are often screwed. It's easy to imagine playing 2H opposite something ridiculous like 5143 etc. I mean, sure. It could happen. Bad things could happen with any decision. If you double, you could also end up in 2♠ when partner has ♠xxx ♥Qx and the opponents start the obvious tap in diamonds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDean Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 The problem with overcalling planning to double later is that it goes all pass a lot. RHO is never balancing, and partner needs much more to bid than he does over a 1 level overcall, so if LHO passes you are often screwed. It's easy to imagine playing 2H opposite something ridiculous like 5143 etc. I mean, sure. It could happen. Bad things could happen with any decision. If you double, you could also end up in 2♠ when partner has ♠xxx ♥Qx and the opponents start the obvious tap in diamonds.I think you would usually end up in clubs opposite xxx Qx in the majors. I would double, but agree it is not without risk. The biggest one I see is when we end up in clubs instead of hearts, particularly if we have a game. Partner could be 3325 or 3334 with some values and it is unlikely we will find 4 hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 I'd rather have partner know that I have 5♥ and 3.5 of each black suit than 3+ of each major. A second round double shows 3.5 spades, but a first round double shows 3+ spades? You sure are a lawyer! I'm not sure how that's confusing. I don't think you understand stereotypes of lawyers... That hurt :) FWIW, this seems like an easy double, but with 4=5=3=1, an easy 2♥ :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulven Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Time for a sim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 No one should be surprised that I double with this hand, since I would also double at the one level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 At the 1-level this would be an obvious overcall for me. At the 2-level I think I have to double, to be able to find a 4-4 spade fit. We agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryallen Posted May 14, 2009 Report Share Posted May 14, 2009 Obviously two concerns here, the first being the fear of missing something, the second the amount of trouble you can get yourself into. The rewards lie with the double, but so do the risks if you want to take it anywhere. For that reason I would just bid 2♥. It does not block the ♠ suit completely but could require assistance from the opposition to avoid missing something. Do you feel lucky? Do you need to feel lucky? I can see this going either way at the table with hero and zero equally awaiting at the other end. If you do double, what subsequent level are you prepared to commit to without a positive response? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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