CSGibson Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=skqj9873haj32d9cj]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♦-(5♣)-?[/hv] Playing a generic 2/1, with an expert partner and against expert opponents (you are the worst player at the table, at any rate). RHO is known to be a bit of a wild card, if that makes a difference to you. 2nd question: Would you do something different at matchpoints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlson Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 5♠ at either, but of course wouldn't be surprised if 5♠ and 5♣ both go down. Would be very surprised if a strain other than spades plays better for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Abstain, I'm never the worst player at the table. Ok ok, 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 Abstain, I'm never the worst player at the table. I never used to be the worst player at any table, either. Then I improved my self-evaluation technique... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 5♠, not happy about it but I would always bid 5♠. Am I really supposed to make different bids when I think I am the worst, second worst, second, best, best player at the table? Maybe this sort of thinking contributes to my being the worst player at the table... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted May 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 5♠, not happy about it but I would always bid 5♠. Am I really supposed to make different bids when I think I am the worst, second worst, second, best, best player at the table? Maybe this sort of thinking contributes to my being the worst player at the table... sorry, didn't mean your own skill level to be a consideration, so much as letting you know that the skill level of your opponents is fairly high. I shouldn't have added it to the OP, as it's distracting from the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 [hv=d=n&v=n&s=skqj9873haj32d9cj]133|100|Scoring: IMP1♦-(5♣)-?[/hv] Playing a generic 2/1, with an expert partner and against expert opponents (you are the worst player at the table, at any rate). RHO is known to be a bit of a wild card, if that makes a difference to you. 2nd question: Would you do something different at matchpoints? 5♠ -- payoff to the preempt if both that and 5♣ go down or the bid eggs pard into bidding 6♠, -1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 How could you bid anything but 5S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 How could you bid anything but 5S? How will anyone know that you're the worst player at the table if you keep making the right bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 5♠. The playing strength is there. All we need is the luck :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 5♠ is 100% clear. What is not clear is who is making what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petergreat Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 I bid 6♣. Seems right for a force... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted May 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 I bid 5 spades too, turns out both 5 clubs and 5 spades go down on perfect defense, and both make on squeezes on non-perfect defense (which is what happened at the table). I thought the decision was closer than the voting indicated, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 5♠. 6♠ might work in practice as LHO very well could take a phantom if RHO has something extra. Still, we are probably losing a club trick, so pard needs gin in the other suits to make 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 I'm a lot more worried about 5♠ going down than 6♠ making. Of course I bid 5♠ though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Call for director, as there must be two ♣J's in the deck. RHO obviously have: [hv=s=s2hq10dk8caj1085432]133|100|[/hv] http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=31855 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skjaeran Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Pretty obvious 5♠ at IMPs IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted May 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Call for director, as there must be two ♣J's in the deck. RHO obviously have: Dealer: ????? Vul: ???? Scoring: Unknown ♠ 2 ♥ Q10 ♦ K8 ♣ AJ1085432 http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=31855 The full hand was actually: [hv=n=s65hq875dakj853cq&w=sa2hkt964dqt64c94&e=st4hd72cakt876532&s=skqj9873haj32d9cj]399|300|[/hv] RHO took the club lead, returned a trump, and LHO followed with another trump. Curtains on the red suit squeeze. 5 clubs makes if I lead a singleton diamond, partner takes the first two and leads a 3rd diamond (or really, leading anything but a spade), trying to promote a trump for me. Declarer then ruffs high, and has a major suit squeeze on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyc0002002 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 find something to throw at RHO A wonderful choice If we are in Advanced and Expert-Class fighting ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Isn't the squeeze still on after ace of clubs, spade, spade? They would have to switch to a diamond to break it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkDean Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Or give east a heart ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 find something to throw at RHO A wonderful choice If we are in Advanced and Expert-Class fighting ;) Is it so bad? I mean for once we actually do have a very powerful suit to introduce and also the playing strength for a 5-level bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 Or give east a heart ruff. That wouldn't break up the squeeze. It would simply change it from a simple squeeze for the contract to a showup squeeze for down 1. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted May 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Isn't the squeeze still on after ace of clubs, spade, spade? They would have to switch to a diamond to break it up. Yes. I made the hand because of the misdefense, on the squeeze, did not mean to leave you with the impression that it went down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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