Trumpace Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 (Sorry for the basic question:) does 2NT show a balanced 15-18 count? Yes. More like 16-18 I guess. Ok. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Whereagles, it is not a good idea to just "distribute the rest of hcp evenly" for the same reason you shouldn't say that when LHO opens 1♥, his average heart length is 7 If you got 7 as average heart length, you probably did something wrong :) It's more like 6, and that's not even discounting the hands that have 7+ hearts and appeal for a different opening (e.g. 4♥, 2♣, namyats, etc). Anyway, as to the hcp, got any better ideas on how to evaluate the averages? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Whereagles, it is not a good idea to just "distribute the rest of hcp evenly" for the same reason you shouldn't say that when LHO opens 1♥, his average heart length is 7 If you got 7 as average heart length, you probably did something wrong :) It's more like 6, and that's not even discounting the hands that have 7+ hearts and appeal for a different opening (e.g. 4♥, 2♣, namyats, etc). Anyway, as to the hcp, got any better ideas on how to evaluate the averages? :o Yes I agree, I did something wrong, I applied your method for hcp to count hearts. LHO has 5+♥We have (say) 2There are 6 more hearts in the deck which we distribute evenly Therefore LHO has, on average, 7 hearts. Just because I don't have a better method to make an estimate than a quick and wrong one, it doesn't mean I should use the quick and wrong one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 I'd still bid 2N. We make 3N very often opposite random hands because we can shut RHO out and own lefty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 are we into necromancy now, reviving old threads? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 Can you defend your reasoning or is it proven right because of some statue of limitations on BBF that I am unaware of (2 weeks?) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 1, 2010 Report Share Posted May 1, 2010 I'd still bid 2N. We make 3N very often opposite random hands because we can shut RHO out and own lefty. Yes - I saw this and thought 2N - wtp? and then I read my old answer lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 I saw this and realised it is even a more clear cut pass than I originally thought. From where are your tricks coming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 I'd pass. Looks like I should be bidding though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Hang on - how many points are the yanks expecting for 2♠? On this side of the pond, "weak" means 4-7 or 5-8 in this position, over which I wouldn't have considered 2NT. If it is 0-5 then sure, I'd probably bid 2NT. Or do you think 2NT is right over any of these ranges? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlall Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 Hang on - how many points are the yanks expecting for 2♠? On this side of the pond, "weak" means 4-7 or 5-8 in this position, over which I wouldn't have considered 2NT. If it is 0-5 then sure, I'd probably bid 2NT. Or do you think 2NT is right over any of these ranges? Weak here usually means "less than a 1S bid" which is pretty lol to me but that's how most people who play weak play them ime. Maybe the good pairs don't but I don't know many good pairs who play weak. To mean something like 5-8 is more like constructive. I would pass over 5-8 for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 I can't believe my answer remains unchanged. That I would have passed without thinking about it, that seeing the 2NT reasoning gives me good pause, and that I would still end up passing but seeing how 2NT could easily be right. I'm not sure I have come up against a single weak jump shift since the last time I answered. Do I not have normal opponents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 I'd pass without thinking too much about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 2, 2010 Report Share Posted May 2, 2010 How does Justin decide what name to use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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