MFA Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 During our recent national teams championship finals the never-ending discussion of overcalling style arose once again. It seems that Danish top players have very different styles when it comes to this. Try a few. 1) ♠AQ95, ♥5, ♦JT5432, ♣92 All vul. Pass from partner, 1♣ from RHO, you? 2) ♠-, ♥98543, ♦AKJT4, ♣KT9 All vul. Pass from partner, 1♦ from RHO, you? 3) ♠J6543, ♥JT, ♦-, ♣KJT543 Vul vs not. You pass, 1♥ from LHO, pass, 3♣ (4card limit raise) from RHO, you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 #1 Pass, but I like the idea of bidding 1S#2 Pass#3 3H (Michaels), the only thing which may prevent me from doing this, is the current vulnerability, which would be a valid reason to pass, at any other vulnerability I would bid. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 1) 1♠, but 1♦ is reasonable. 2) 1♥. This is 2009, so we no longer need an honour in the suit to overcall. 3) I can't see any point in an undefined Michaels cue bid - if partner doesn't know which minor I have, he won't be able to judge what to do anyway. I'd double, showing clubs, then double 4♥, suggesting (I hope) a black two-suiter. Afterwards, I'd discuss the idea of using 4♣ over 3♣ to show clubs and spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 1) 2♦, 3♦ if I feel I need a swing.1) 1♥3) 4♣ (Clubs and spades.) (Edit: yes, I play that.) You didn't expect any passes, did you? :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 1,2: Agree with Andy3: Double then 4♠? Active bridge is happy bridge :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 pass pass and pass. In No 1 1 Spade is a close second. In No 2 I would bid 1 spade with the majors reversed. In no. 3 I would double for clubs if I had this tool avaiable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mich-b Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 1. Pass - 1♦ is neither preemptive nor lead directing ; 1♠ is both , but we consider 4 card overcalls vulnerable to be too dangerous. 2. 1♥ - my suit is weak , but my hand is quite good, and entering the auction later may be difficult. 3. Double - showing Clubs. If partner passes , I will not bid again over 4♥, though I might bid 3♠ over 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbforster Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Add another from a sectional the other day: P-(1♣)-? voidvoid K98xxxKQT98xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 1) 1♠, but 1♦ is reasonable. I hadn't noticed that partner was a passed hand. I'd bid 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 1. Prefer 1♠ here, for the lead-directing value. 2. 1♥. I don't like this, but with a spade void, I think I have to bid NOW. 3. 3♥. Glad I can do this at a "low" level :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 1. 1♦, 1♠ is far from being my style, preempting is even farther, and pass is even farther still. To me the problem is very easy (I don't mean I expect all to agree, just that I am quickly certain of what I would always do.)2. 1♥. I rarely justify choices this way, but Mike Lawrence's book on overcalls has a very good page or so on why it's just so wrong to pass on hands that are good for offense and defense but have a bad suit.3. Double showing clubs. I'll probably pass when it comes back at 4♥, I guess I'm chicken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 1. Pass - 1♦ is neither preemptive nor lead directing ; 1♠ is both , but we consider 4 card overcalls vulnerable to be too dangerous. 2. 1♥ - my suit is weak , but my hand is quite good, and entering the auction later may be difficult. 3. Double - showing Clubs. If partner passes , I will not bid again over 4♥, though I might bid 3♠ over 3♥. Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 Agree with jdonn quite strongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I would bid Michaels on the last one. The key thing for partner to judge is whether or not to bid 4S, knowing I have a 2 suiter should help him in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 1. 1♦, 2♦ could go wrong very easily, and I want to keep the spade suit in play also.2. 1♥, it would be a crime not to bid with this hand, despite not having any honors in the suit.3. Double, then 4♠ over 4♥... Not perfect, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted May 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 During our recent national teams championship finals the never-ending discussion of overcalling style arose once again. It seems that Danish top players have very different styles when it comes to this. Try a few. 1) ♠AQ95, ♥5, ♦JT5432, ♣92 All vul. Pass from partner, 1♣ from RHO, you?I tried 1♦ which was pure meat for the commentator vultures, since they had been waiting all day to see one of those reckless and pointless overcalls finally result in a true disaster. And so it was. Partner unsuccesfully led ♦K from ♦Kx and we conceded 140 instead of 110 in 2♥. 2) ♠-, ♥98543, ♦AKJT4, ♣KT9 All vul. Pass from partner, 1♦ from RHO, you?This one annoyed me, because for some reason I passed, which is out of character for me. We sold out to 2♠ 8 with 3♥ our way. I'm positive that it's right to bid 1♥. 3) ♠J6543, ♥JT, ♦-, ♣KJT543 Vul vs not. You pass, 1♥ from LHO, pass, 3♣ (4card limit raise) from RHO, you?Bidding is right since partner has Axxx, x, Axxxxx, xx and 4♠ is a lucky make. Yes he might have overcalled 2♦ but that doesn't really matter.I think it's 3♥ if anything. X to show clubs and then pass seems pointless when we are wishing for a diamond lead. X followed by 4♠ looks like a suicide attempt to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 1) Pass for me. Overcalling 1♦ on this junk opposite a passed PD doesn't accomplish enough for me. Overcalling 1♠ is reasonable but I'd want a better suit just incase PD isn't onto the 4 card overcall joke with 7 HCP and competes. 2) Easy 1♥. I'll refer those who pass to Lawrence's book, and do hope that some W/C players come out with a new book on overcalls by 2010. 3) 3♥ Mike is adequate for me at these colors with only 5 working HCP and noting PD failed to overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 1. Prefer 1♠ here, for the lead-directing value. 2. 1♥. I don't like this, but with a spade void, I think I have to bid NOW. 3. 3♥. Glad I can do this at a "low" level :) Agree with Nuno - yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted May 10, 2009 Report Share Posted May 10, 2009 1. = 1♠ pretty normal I think.2. = 1♥ because we have a fit.3. = DBL because I have ♣. ♠ will have to wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 During our recent national teams championship finals the never-ending discussion of overcalling style arose once again. It seems that Danish top players have very different styles when it comes to this. Try a few. 1) ♠AQ95, ♥5, ♦JT5432, ♣92 All vul. Pass from partner, 1♣ from RHO, you? 2) ♠-, ♥98543, ♦AKJT4, ♣KT9 All vul. Pass from partner, 1♦ from RHO, you? 3) ♠J6543, ♥JT, ♦-, ♣KJT543 Vul vs not. You pass, 1♥ from LHO, pass, 3♣ (4card limit raise) from RHO, you? 1) 1♠ -- the more interesting question of course is what if it goes the ominous (P) - P - (X) 2) 1♥ -- blame it on Lawrence 3) 3♥ -- X could work I suppose, but it gives them 3 more free bids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 1. 2D as weak distributional hoping X over 2H to find Spades.2. 1H skeer'd to try 2H to get over their spades.3. 3S neck on block hoping S-fit on this interesting distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petergreat Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 1. 1♦ what else?2. 2NT unusual.3. 3♥ Michaels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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