Edmunte1 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I'm just checking a position encountered in National Pairs Championship, that involved afterwards director's decision (i'm not going to detaliate now). What's your bid as South?[hv=d=s&v=n&s=sq542hak32d83ck32]133|100|Scoring: MP1♣-(pass)-1♥-(2♥)(1)?(1)Michaels[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I would double and hope partner takes this as a raise. I think it is the most useful interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I would double and hope partner takes this as a raise. I think it is the most useful interpretation.Me too.. and I would add that this should show either this hand (minimum) or a complex, powerful hand with genuine support (will take a voluntary strength showing call later if need be). if I held a 3♥ raise, i should make the raise, rather than let them make me do something I had no reason to do. Simple often works in these situations.... btw, who plays 2♥ michaels here? Not many, I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Since I have no specific agreement I'd assume support double is on here. This doesn't mean that double is not the best option, but it doesn't describe a minimum 4 card support at least for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Double for me too. Even if it is interpreted as "Support" then I'm still OK with it, since I have a bad minimum anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Simple often works in these situations.... btw, who plays 2♥ michaels here? Not many, I bet. Not me. http://web2.acbl.org/nabcbulletins/2005spring/db5.pdf (Page 6 -- "Mini-Moysian") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I would bid 3♥ to show my heart support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 One thing I wouldn't do is bid 3♥. My hand was not great to begin with, now, my secondary honor (the ♠Q) isn't setting up, nor is my potential length winner (the 4th spade). This isn't going to be a challenging lead problem for LHO, he'll trumps against our heart contract, since he's not looking at the top ones. I would assume, without discussion, at least in North America, that double shows a desire to penalize the opponents. I think this is theoretically analogous to another thread where it went 1♥-(P)-1NT-2♥; ?. Double there was penalty without agreement to the contrary, but I think it makes more sense in both threads to have double mean "I want to compete in one of our suits." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Agree with 655321. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Why didn't I open 1H? Even a 5xM lie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Showing a heart raise seems clearly most useful here. But I fear partner and me both independently having to agree what is most useful on each auction without seeing the hand of the other or having discussed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 I suppose you asked and were told that 2H was Michaels. It would not be Michaels for me or for any of my partners. Dbl now, hoping support double is on here. Slightly hazy but I am not going to climb on the 3-level with this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 In Romania at most 5% of partnerships have discussed this as natural and I have seen several pairs trying it undiscussed as some sort of two suited bid arguing post mortem 'how could it possibly be natural?!' but maybe Edi has experienced otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Why should we care whether if 2H was natural or michaels? If the opponent's want to play michaels then let them I say :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 It's an add for the good-bad 2NT :( Without it, I dunno... maybe dbl, maybe pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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