mtvesuvius Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 All NV at IMPs you hold: ♠ Axx♥ xx♦ AJT8xx♣ Ax You deal: 1♦ - (P) - 1♥ - (3♠)???* *If you pass, partner will double, now what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I will pass, and after partner reopens will pass again. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Pass, then 3NT over the double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdaming Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 As long as you still play this as takeout then I will also be a passer then a 3nt bidder. I like the ♦ spots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Pass, then 3NT over the double. Yes, both choices are obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think it is far from unreasonable to (over)bid 3NT immediately. 3NT was my first reaction. The more I think about it, the more I like it. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think it is far from unreasonable to (over)bid 3NT immediately. 3NT was my first reaction. The more I think about it, the more I like it. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Thought about it some more - perhaps I have lost my mind :) Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think Fred has lost his mind, I would definitely pass and bid 3NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Sorry Fred I think you lost your mind too. I guess it takes an expert to go down 300 NV when you aren't even doubled. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Maybe the solution is to open 1NT. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Pass, then 3NT over the double. Same for me, although I don't hate passing over the double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think it is far from unreasonable to (over)bid 3NT immediately. 3NT was my first reaction. The more I think about it, the more I like it. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Thought about it some more - perhaps I have lost my mind :) Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com If it makes you feel any better, if I could declare like you, and playing against my usual foes, I probably would bid 3NT straight off. Ok, maybe that didn't come across quite as supportive as I might have hoped. :) :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think it is far from unreasonable to (over)bid 3NT immediately. 3NT was my first reaction. The more I think about it, the more I like it. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Thought about it some more - perhaps I have lost my mind :) Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Im just thrilled to hear that even Fred somtimes loses his mind in this game :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOL Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 Just don't tank pass 3S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted April 24, 2009 Report Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think it is far from unreasonable to (over)bid 3NT immediately. 3NT was my first reaction. The more I think about it, the more I like it. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Thought about it some more - perhaps I have lost my mind :) Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Im just thrilled to hear that even Fred somtimes loses his mind in this game :)I certainly do, but my latest thinking is I may have been too hard on myself in this case when I used the term "lost my mind". Really the only problem I see with 3NT is that partner will play me for a much stronger hand - if I knew he was going to Pass 3NT, I think I would bid it. The point is that, if I make the normal Pass, there are lot of hands partner could hold in which 3NT is either laydown or very good for which he will not even consider doing anything other than passing out 3S. Here is a nice example of a minimum: xxxxxxKxxKxxx Sure you are down if hearts are 5-2, but LHO did not overcall 1H. Sure you are down if you misguess diamonds, but I would be willing to take my chances. And obviously partner could have a significantly better hand than this example and still Pass out 3S - if you Pass he has to be very concerned that you might have a balanced 12-14 in which case it could be dangerous for him to balance with a marginal hand. So maybe my self-claim that I lost my mind was somewhat of an overbid :) Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I also chose Fred's choice. Partner now bid 4♠, I bid 5♦ which was raised to six. K♠ lead, plan the play: [hv=d=s&v=n&n=shaj98xxdkqxcqjxx&s=saxxhxxdajt8xxcax]133|200|Scoring: IMPYikes :rolleyes:[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Kid Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Probably not correct but I'll have a go: Ruff the lead and play the diamond K, if RHO follows I'll overtake with the ace. If the diamonds aren't 4-0 I'll ruff another spade and will make it as long as a small club to the ace is not ruffed. If RHO shows out on the diamond king, I'll duck the diamond and take my chances with the club finesse in order to secure the two entries needed for the spade ruff and drawing trumps. If RHO ends up having 4 diamonds after the diamond king with some crazy shape, I'll play another diamond back to the dummy's queen and then a club to the Ace. Draw trump and hope that RHO has a king singleton or doubleton in clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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