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[benlessard]

[hv=d=s&n=sqjhkqxxxdxxxcqxx&s=skt9xxhajxdqxxxca]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

 

1S---------1NT (forcing)

2D---------2Nt

pass.

 

+180

[gwnn]

S should bid 3♥ over 2NT.

[mtvesuvius]

S should bid 3♥ over 2NT.

Yep. Although I'm one to be speaking about forcing NT auctions... :)

[pretzalz]

North should rebid 2S. It's a very ugly 10 count.

[matmat]

North should rebid 2S. It's a very ugly 10 count.

i disagree... greatly...

[Codo]

S should bid 3♥ over 2NT.

I would hate this. It had worked here but let us to 3 NT with no fits and 14 hcps or some shaky 7 card fits opposite millions of other hands.

 

I like the bidding, sometimes you play the wrong strain on the wrong level.

[mich-b]

I would hate this. It had worked here but let us to 3 NT with no fits and 14 hcps or some shaky 7 card fits opposite millions of other hands.

 

I dont understand.. What other hands? didn't partner show about 11hcp?

 

Doesn't South with a 14 count (plus some useful intermediates) has a routine accept of the invitation?

 

And, while accepting, isn't it routine to show the 3 card ♥ fragment?

[P_Marlowe]

I would hate this. It had worked here but let us to 3 NT with no fits and 14 hcps or some shaky 7 card fits opposite millions of other hands.

 

I dont understand.. What other hands? didn't partner show about 11hcp?

 

Doesn't South with a 14 count (plus some useful intermediates) has a routine accept of the invitation?

 

And, while accepting, isn't it routine to show the 3 card ♥ fragment?

Responder showed 10-12.

Opener also has a single Ace, which a feature which at least some player

would consider a minus.

So all in all, it is a matter of making the right decision.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Codo]

I would hate this. It had worked here but let us to 3 NT with no fits and 14 hcps or some shaky 7 card fits opposite millions of other hands.

 

I dont understand.. What other hands? didn't partner show about 11hcp?

 

Doesn't South with a 14 count (plus some useful intermediates) has a routine accept of the invitation?

 

And, while accepting, isn't it routine to show the 3 card ♥ fragment?

responder showed: 10-11 HCPS and no particular fit and no long suit.

So he should have something from 1525 to 2434.

Of course, you can construct hands, where 3 NT is still making, or where 4 Heart comes in because you find partner with a 2533 with not much wasted in clubs, nice fillers in spades and solid 5 hearts.

 

But I belive that there are too many hands where 2 NT socre better- even with imp-scoring. But maybe a sim will proofe me wrong....

[Old York]

The standard BBO-FD cards don't help much :angry:

 

Sayc/Acol/Natural:

1♠-2♥-3♥-ppp {why is 3♥ shown as forcing on FD?}

 

2/1

1♠-1NT-2♦-3♠ (if invitational) or 2♠ (constructive)

 

Either way opener should pass with 7 losers

 

Tony

[nick_s]

I must be missing something. I don't get this at all.

2NT looks like a good landing spot to me.

 

4♥ requires AK♦ to be onside and no diamond ruff.

3NT requires a non-club lead. (or several cards to all be well placed)

I don't mind missing either of these.